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  • teratos

    My hair is amazing
    MDS Supporter
    Patriot Picket
    Jan 22, 2009
    59,830
    Bel Air
    I wish crybaby Schumer and Pelosi could tell us.

    Trump saying he will be suspending all travel from Europe for the next 30 days.

    If I were Trump, I’d have put Pelosi and Schumer in charge of the Coronavirus task force.
     

    cobra

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 26, 2009
    2,067
    White Marsh
    Mre prices have gone up to what I bought a year ago from what I’m seeing advertised “if” in stock now.
    I also keep a stock on Romain noodles and enough bottled water to eat them as back up. Weird as I actually like Romain noodles lol.
    Hint rotate noodles every two months as they get a stale taste if not. Still good just a bit stale tasting compared to new/ fresh bought.

    What I don’t understand is panic buy on toilet paper ?
     

    MigraineMan

    Defenestration Specialist
    Jun 9, 2011
    19,245
    Frederick County
    Learned something new today, and I wanted to pass it along. Should you be in a position to need "hand sanitizer" but only have access to crappy bathtub gin or other low-alcohol-percentage watery liquid, you can use a process called "salting out" to separate the alcohol from the water. Works with table salt (NaCl) but works better with potassium carbonate (K2CO3) or calcium chloride (CaCl2)*.

    Technically, the process is called "extractive distillation." Basically, the alcohol has a weak association with the water, and the salt (being a red-blooded 'Murrican) elbows the candy-assed alcohol out of the way. It's very much a mechanical process that displaces the alcohol out of solution. You can siphon off the distilled alcohol, evaporate the water, and recover the salt. Repeat as necessary. Works with various alcohols - enthanol, isopropyl, etc.

     

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    CrazySanMan

    2013'er
    Mar 4, 2013
    11,390
    Colorful Colorado
    Learned something new today, and I wanted to pass it along. Should you be in a position to need "hand sanitizer" but only have access to crappy bathtub gin or other low-alcohol-percentage watery liquid, you can use a process called "salting out" to separate the alcohol from the water. Works with table salt (NaCl) but works better with potassium carbonate (K2CO3) or calcium chloride (CaCl2)*.



    Technically, the process is called "extractive distillation." Basically, the alcohol has a weak association with the water, and the salt (being a red-blooded 'Murrican) elbows the candy-assed alcohol out of the way. It's very much a mechanical process that displaces the alcohol out of solution. You can siphon off the distilled alcohol, evaporate the water, and recover the salt. Repeat as necessary. Works with various alcohols - enthanol, isopropyl, etc.



    You can also freeze it. Some of the water will freeze and form ice on top which you skim off. Do this several times and you'll remove most of the water.

    In Apalachia people would make hard cider then use this ice distilling process to create a high proof liquor called applejack.
     

    Lucca1

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    Feb 9, 2013
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    Behind Enemy Lines
    Stopped by the Costco in Frederick tonight to grab some coffee shortly before they closed. TP, tissues, paper towels bleach, hand soap, spam, Lysol, all gone. Empty boxes everywhere. I have never seen the shelves so empty. People were noticably panicked.
     

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    piled higher and deeper
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    Aug 15, 2012
    22,400
    Frederick County
    Stopped by the Costco in Frederick tonight to grab some coffee shortly before they closed. TP, tissues, paper towels bleach, hand soap, spam, Lysol, all gone. Empty boxes everywhere. I have never seen the shelves so empty. People were noticably panicked.
    Damn. That's amazing. When there have been hurricane warnings the past two decades that I've lived here, and there is a possibility that tap water might be out, I've never seen this. That's real panic.
     

    Lucca1

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    Feb 9, 2013
    1,002
    Behind Enemy Lines
    Re
    Damn. That's amazing. When there have been hurricane warnings the past two decades that I've lived here, and there is a possibility that tap water might be out, I've never seen this. That's real panic.

    It was insane. I can't imagine what the scrap $$ will be for today. Frozen and refrigerated foods were everywhere.
     

    Gizmo98

    Free At Last!!
    Nov 4, 2015
    683
    Central PA
    I get stocking up on things just in case the supply chains break down for a time and you can't go to the store. We live in the suburbs and (hopefully) can go a month or so without going shopping. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect businesses to be closed and/or empty for a short period of time.
    But why water? There's no hurricane coming. How is this going to affect city water supplies? Is there any chance city water will be shut down, and I'm just missing it? Or is this just another case of, "OMG I HAVE TO BUY ALL THE TOILET PAPER AND WATER!!!"?
     

    willtill

    The Dude Abides
    MDS Supporter
    May 15, 2007
    24,530
    I get stocking up on things just in case the supply chains break down for a time and you can't go to the store. We live in the suburbs and (hopefully) can go a month or so without going shopping. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect businesses to be closed and/or empty for a short period of time.
    But why water? There's no hurricane coming. How is this going to affect city water supplies? Is there any chance city water will be shut down, and I'm just missing it? Or is this just another case of, "OMG I HAVE TO BUY ALL THE TOILET PAPER AND WATER!!!"?

    How's the bread situation? And Eggs? :D
     

    Gizmo98

    Free At Last!!
    Nov 4, 2015
    683
    Central PA
    How's the bread situation? And Eggs? :D

    Don't forget milk!

    I really don't get it. I had to make a couple of trips this week for normal shopping, and I asked if people were losing their minds. The answer was universally yes, but the shopping lists were surprising to me. There was the obvious toilet paper, water, hand soap, and hand sanitizer, but people are also stocking up on perishables. Some are buying 5-10 dozen eggs and multiple gallons of milk at a time. Same with fruits and veggies that don't really last long. I know there are ways to make this stuff last, but I'm pretty sure almost all of this stuff is going to be thrown out in a few weeks.
    On the other hand, there's plenty of cereal, canned goods, and bulk rice and beans. I'm not a prepper by any stretch, but it's not hard to think this through. My wife and I sat down and made a list of things we'd need if we couldn't go shopping for a month or two. Over the past ~6 weeks, we've slowly stocked up on those things. We should have plenty of meds and food to get us through for a while.
    Oddly enough, we don't have a closet full of toilet paper or 10 gallons of milk. We're probably going to die.
     

    Alea Jacta Est

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    Giz, et al.

    We are most definitely going to die. Ain’t no doubt about it.












    The damnable questions are when and how. If you know WHEN is soon, well then that’s not so good. If you don’t know but suspect, then things aren’t so bad. Covid-19 is not to be taken lightly. Then again, it’s like the bullet with your name on it vs the one inscribed, “to whom it may concern...”

    There’s lots of potential how’s relative to potential causes of death. There’s lots of math involved (and it’s before noon) but I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest some, even many of us will get positive on COVID-19. Furthermore, a couple of us (relatively small population in MDS) are possibly gonna die from it.

    Laying up worrying about that seems not to be constructive or productive.

    My life is much simpler than many. We’ve retired. We’ve migrated out of MD and into the mountains of NC. I admit I might or might not have been following the BoyScout motto of Be Prepared maybe even since I was a scout. Yet, I could still be a victim. Oh well. Shit happens.

    OTOH, our personal position is strong wrt stuff, location and thus risk.

    I ain’t gonna worry. I am gonna minimize travel and contacting the near term. I am gonna wash my hands and try to keep my booger hooks away from my face. Having a robust “pantry” and “plan” makes that a hella lot easier.

    Buenos Dias y’all. God bless.
     

    Dingo3

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 4, 2013
    2,788
    Fredneck
    Stopped by the Costco in Frederick tonight to grab some coffee shortly before they closed. TP, tissues, paper towels bleach, hand soap, spam, Lysol, all gone. Empty boxes everywhere. I have never seen the shelves so empty. People were noticably panicked.

    That’s pretty much every other day for the past 2 weeks. Water and tp are there in the morning and gone in the afternoon. Fresh food departments run out on a daily basis (not sure why as we have a max of 3 day shelf life). Place has been nuts
     

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