Winchester 1907 SL .351 carbine

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  • mawkie

    C&R Whisperer
    Sep 28, 2007
    4,353
    Catonsville
    -I've only got a handful of sporting firearms in my large collection. The few I have are those that pique my interest, like the Ross M10 .280 Sporter. For years I've been intrigued by early autoloading sporting rifles like the Remington Models 8 and 81 Woodsman and the Remington 1907 SL. So when the opportunity to acquire a wonderful example of an early Remington 1907 SL in .351 Rem came up I didn't hesitate to grab it. SN dates it to on of nearly 6k built in 1908. So she's 109 years old.
    -The auction house photos didn't come close to doing this rifle justice. But for a couple of thin scratches and tiny blems on the receiver it would be a 98 or 99 point example. The finish is original and the hard rubber buttplate, hard and easy to chip, is in pristine condition. Due to the blow back action it's a bit hefty but still handy being so short. The furniture is immaculate with no wear, dings or scratches. This sweetheart was loved and well stored.
    -The 1907 SL had a long production period from 1906 to 1958 with production interrupted in '43 & '44 for the war. Roughly 58K were built, most of them before WW2. There was a version with an enlarged mag release for a 10, 15 or 20 round magazine. This was popular with prison guards and law enforcement. They were 2800 purchased by the French Air Corp in WWI to equip early aviators. The British RFC also purchased some and they were issued with 15-20 round mags.
    -I like to think of the 1907 SL as the father of the M1 Carbine. The blow back action does make it quite a bit heavier than the M1 but it's got that smooth sided action that was designed to slip in an out of a scabbard. Hence the cocking plunger under the barrel rather than a side mounted knob.
     

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    mawkie

    C&R Whisperer
    Sep 28, 2007
    4,353
    Catonsville
    Additional photos

    Last photo shows a RFC modified example with larger capacity magazine and larger trigger guard to allow for a gloved hand.
     

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    Jul 1, 2012
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    Oh man, that's really nice!
    Super buy for sure... be very hard to top the condition of that one.
    Now you need another one in shooter condition :)

    Wonder if Eugene Reising got the idea for the "under-slung" cocking arm (M-50, M-65 etc) from here?
     

    BossmanPJ

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 22, 2013
    7,059
    Cecil County
    Very nice. I believe Babyface Nelson or someone in his gang carried an example of the large cap magazine version.

    Very cool rifle.
     

    CodeWarrior1241

    Active Member
    Sep 23, 2013
    827
    Lutherville
    A 351 rifle is fascinating and this one looks phenomenal. Mawkie, do you know how much the bolt of the model 1907 weighs?

    Feels a bit like the 351 was a missed opportunity historically. 2-3 time the energy of a 9mm parabellum, but low-ish pressure and still works in a blowback system avoiding a lot of the complexity of gas systems that hadn't been invented yet...

    Sent from my SHIELD Tablet K1 using Tapatalk
     

    mawkie

    C&R Whisperer
    Sep 28, 2007
    4,353
    Catonsville
    A 351 rifle is fascinating and this one looks phenomenal. Mawkie, do you know how much the bolt of the model 1907 weighs?

    Feels a bit like the 351 was a missed opportunity historically. 2-3 time the energy of a 9mm parabellum, but low-ish pressure and still works in a blowback system avoiding a lot of the complexity of gas systems that hadn't been invented yet...

    Sent from my SHIELD Tablet K1 using Tapatalk

    I just know it's a hefty little bugger! Surprised me when I lifted it for the first time as it just looks light. But that's the downside to blow back operation. Either a heavy bolt or heavy recoil spring. The laws of physics cannot be ignored.
     

    mawkie

    C&R Whisperer
    Sep 28, 2007
    4,353
    Catonsville
    A 351 rifle is fascinating and this one looks phenomenal. Mawkie, do you know how much the bolt of the model 1907 weighs?

    Feels a bit like the 351 was a missed opportunity historically. 2-3 time the energy of a 9mm parabellum, but low-ish pressure and still works in a blowback system avoiding a lot of the complexity of gas systems that hadn't been invented yet...

    Sent from my SHIELD Tablet K1 using Tapatalk
    Ran across the specs for the bolt: 2.5 lbs! Bringing up this necro post because there's a goodie coming soon that ties into it perfectly. I'm pretty sure you'll find it interesting...
     

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