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Hell yes we care about these issues and care about putting this state back in order.
Lets fix this, lets make Maryland a better place.
Thanks so much to all of you that testified, and everyone else that did and is doing so much to make Maryland the wonderful state she once was.
Hell yes we care about these issues and care about putting this state back in order.
Lets fix this, lets make Maryland a better place.
Thanks so much to all of you that testified, and everyone else that did and is doing so much to make Maryland the wonderful state she once was.
Just came back from a Comcast imposed time out. You guys are rocking the joint!
We have those numbers. Total permit holders as of January 2017 is a tad above 17,000. Up a bit from a dip a few years ago.
Interestingly to me, the armed security demographics are the only thing keeping the overall number of permit holders from appearing blatantly sexist and racist. There are a lot of female and minority armed security, retired police, and corrections officers. Without them in the equation, females and minorities are way underrepresented.
Conway took issue with the fact that there was a picture of Baltimore protestors(burning, looting and rioting) and John Josselyn said that it was a picture of people who did not value life or anything. Conway argued that JJ did not mention it was a group of people protesting a perceived wrongful death and police brutality.
JJ mentioned that he and "his people" did not protest that way and Conway asked, "who are your people?" Insinuating JJ was making a racist comment derogatory to African Americans.
Well done, all. Thank you.
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,152
After the hearing ended, JJ and I and Del Conway had a friendly wide ranging conversation , everything is cool now.
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,152
Re #706 , that's an interesting number @ 17k , is that actual number for current active Permits ? I remember from a few years ago we could get some numbers for Permits * Issued * in a particular year, but no data for how many were surrendered during the time period, nor how many were multiples to same person. With the Permit scheme being so employment based, lots of people change jobs, and surrender their Permits when they leave the particular employer .
During that particular "testimony" the female was reading someone else's testimony because they could not be there due to weather. Really should not have been doing that, but it was short lived.
Big, stinking' giveaway that the MOMs and MDers to Prevent Gun Violence have ZERO substance is that they kept bringing up "victims" all damn day and most of the time, when trying to push the long gun registry, I mean background checks, they kept referring to crimes involving handguns. Absolutely pathetic attempts by them.
Adolph, you and I got the same thing huh. One of those moms at the Senate hearing must have spread the crap their kids bring home from school to us.
I saw how a number of times the video and sound were not working. Heck, if they can't keep simple things like video working, how are they supposed to monitor long gun sales, who beats whom and where their guns are to confiscate them, etc etc etc?
- Dec 13, 2015
- 1,940
At a hearing like this, i believe so. But you can prolly check with msi for an answer. You can always stop and visit the legiscritters or their staff in person. If the committee members give u flak about not being from their district, remind do them that their work on the committee is for all marylanders.
As far as testifying on the aggregate of gun bills, last night was it.
There is one bill in the senate judiciary today that would extend carry permits to 5 years before needing renewal
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frmMain.aspx?stab=01&pid=billpage&tab=subject3&ys=2017rs&id=SB1091
There is one bill in the senate judiciary today that would extend carry permits to 5 years before needing renewal
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frmMain.aspx?stab=01&pid=billpage&tab=subject3&ys=2017rs&id=SB1091
hodgepodge
Senior Member (Gold)
Hoping I didn't err in this letter, sent this morning, to Ms. Duamis. I get that she wants to "do something", but I have no way to legislate against someone who plans murder. More gun legislation will not do it.
My letter:
Ms. Dumais - I apologize for an error in my testimony before the House Judiciary Committee yesterday. I indicated that Donald Bricker had not been prosecuted on parole violations. This is incorrect.
I was looking at a Washington Post story from 10/21/2016. The story indicates charges were dropped. A Maryland Case Search indicates that in 2007 (incident date: 07/25), he was charged with Disorderly Conduct and Failure to Obey a Lawful Order. Also in 2007 (Incident date: 8/29), he was charged with Failure to Obey a Peace Order and Malicious Destruction of Property. All charges were dropped (Nolle Prose).
I cannot resolve such a situation. Both yesterday and at last year's hearing on the similar bill, I sensed your frustration at the inability to prevent a future, similar situation. Hearing from Sade's mother was a dramatic way to present this issue.
But I know of no way to prevent such an issue. You heard testimony yesterday that the FBI will not perform a National Instant Criminal Background Check System check (NICS check) on an antique or replica gun.You indicated you would research this. Please do. There was at least one Federal Firearms License holder who would have testified on this yesterday but he was impacted by the weather in Carrolll County. Pleae contact the FBI, a local dealer or check the regulations at https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/atf-p-5300-4pdf/download
There is no way for any dealer to check if the purchaser of an antique or replica is prohibited under federal law. Prohibition under Maryland law is determined, in part, by a check of the federal NICS system. This is not possible for an antique or replica.
Also, please look at Nevada's recent experience with their Question 1. The FBI will not make NICS available for private party transfers. A story about the decision and the text of the opinion of the Nevada Attorney General is located at http://carsonvalleytimes.com/2016/1...-unenforceable-without-fbi-background-checks/ Please note the parts of the federal response that Nevada could not impose additional requiremnts on the federal system.
There were then questions on the efficacy of having the dealer make the purchaser affirm that he is not prohibited. Sadly, an individual planning to assault or murder someone in not above lying at time of purchase. I can see no benefit to such an affirmation.
You asked us if we believed an individual such as Bricker should be allowed to purchase a replica gun. Several of the folks testifying were unwilling to commit for fear of being trapped. I am not. No, he should not be allowed to purchase a gun. Nor should he be allowed to purchase any tool with which he may commit murder. This Includes belts, hammers and kitchen knives. I know of no way to prevent an individual who plans to murder.
As a Christian, I must look at his innermost being, his heart. And my understanding tells me that there is evil in this world, that we must constantly fight against it.It is often difficult to legislate against it.
Thank you for your time yesterday. I thank you deeply for your desire to do something to prevent any such future death.
hodgepodge
Arnold, MD
My letter:
Ms. Dumais - I apologize for an error in my testimony before the House Judiciary Committee yesterday. I indicated that Donald Bricker had not been prosecuted on parole violations. This is incorrect.
I was looking at a Washington Post story from 10/21/2016. The story indicates charges were dropped. A Maryland Case Search indicates that in 2007 (incident date: 07/25), he was charged with Disorderly Conduct and Failure to Obey a Lawful Order. Also in 2007 (Incident date: 8/29), he was charged with Failure to Obey a Peace Order and Malicious Destruction of Property. All charges were dropped (Nolle Prose).
I cannot resolve such a situation. Both yesterday and at last year's hearing on the similar bill, I sensed your frustration at the inability to prevent a future, similar situation. Hearing from Sade's mother was a dramatic way to present this issue.
But I know of no way to prevent such an issue. You heard testimony yesterday that the FBI will not perform a National Instant Criminal Background Check System check (NICS check) on an antique or replica gun.You indicated you would research this. Please do. There was at least one Federal Firearms License holder who would have testified on this yesterday but he was impacted by the weather in Carrolll County. Pleae contact the FBI, a local dealer or check the regulations at https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/atf-p-5300-4pdf/download
There is no way for any dealer to check if the purchaser of an antique or replica is prohibited under federal law. Prohibition under Maryland law is determined, in part, by a check of the federal NICS system. This is not possible for an antique or replica.
Also, please look at Nevada's recent experience with their Question 1. The FBI will not make NICS available for private party transfers. A story about the decision and the text of the opinion of the Nevada Attorney General is located at http://carsonvalleytimes.com/2016/1...-unenforceable-without-fbi-background-checks/ Please note the parts of the federal response that Nevada could not impose additional requiremnts on the federal system.
There were then questions on the efficacy of having the dealer make the purchaser affirm that he is not prohibited. Sadly, an individual planning to assault or murder someone in not above lying at time of purchase. I can see no benefit to such an affirmation.
You asked us if we believed an individual such as Bricker should be allowed to purchase a replica gun. Several of the folks testifying were unwilling to commit for fear of being trapped. I am not. No, he should not be allowed to purchase a gun. Nor should he be allowed to purchase any tool with which he may commit murder. This Includes belts, hammers and kitchen knives. I know of no way to prevent an individual who plans to murder.
As a Christian, I must look at his innermost being, his heart. And my understanding tells me that there is evil in this world, that we must constantly fight against it.It is often difficult to legislate against it.
Thank you for your time yesterday. I thank you deeply for your desire to do something to prevent any such future death.
hodgepodge
Arnold, MD
- Feb 19, 2013
- 18,751
I caught that, it was amusing. Great reply after the race baiting tirade as well.
Did not note any red shirts at all opposing CCW issues etc. I though they were overwhelming? That is only the case in the media..
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