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Old September 9th, 2019, 09:23 PM #71
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Birthright citizenship is written into the 14th amendment and has been in force since 1868. Are you arguing that the children of slaves shouldn't have been made US citizens?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The key clause is “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” SCOTUS has never ruled whether a person here illegally meets that requirement.
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The key clause is “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” SCOTUS has never ruled whether a person here illegally meets that requirement.
Correct. The Congressional Research Service has issued a couple of legal analysis on the topic. It is also interesting to read the Congressional transcripts covering the debate on the 14th Amendment. Some of the Congressmen were unclear on the definition of citizenship. I recall that one Congressman said that we was OK with granting citizenship as long as it did not include the right to own property or vote.
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Ann Coulter has a good article on the history of birthright citizenship for illegal aliens. It originated with a court dicta (a comment/footnote with no legal power behind it) in 1982.
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-10-31.html
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The key clause is “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” SCOTUS has never ruled whether a person here illegally meets that requirement.
I thought "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is what grants those born in use territories citizenship.
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Um most Latinos I know, are more democratic /socialist in their views than most black folks I know. Most Latinos love them some socialism.

A lot of them leave socialist countries, move here and vote for more socialism
Which i call pretty damn stupid. I tell people all the time when you flee a place and then vote for the place you flee to or break into to become the same way that is stupid. Similar to many yankees who move and wonder how the states go to hell. No doubt in my mind they will screw virginia. Maryland has issues. No sales tax is what is saving delaware.
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