Larry Hogan Says No Change To Gun Laws

Boom Boom · Nov 25, 2014

Or he's not and naysayers will look like armchair negative Nancy in retrospect. Wait and see. Keep expectations reasonable. Until then, it's nothing but conjecture.

teratos · Nov 25, 2014

Decoy said:
Or, he's a RINO and we are all chumps.

Tough crowd. Let's wait and see what he does before slinging mud.

swinokur · Nov 25, 2014

^^^^^^^^^^^

THIS.

SCARCQB · Nov 25, 2014

Give Gov. Elect Hogan some time. These anti-gun laws did not happen overnight. It will take some time , effort , resources and a lot of patience to get them changed.

trickg · Nov 25, 2014

teratos said:
Tough crowd. Let's wait and see what he does before slinging mud.

+1 The man is not even in office yet, and although this is an important issue for us, realistically, on a state level, the budget mess has got to be top priority for him coming out of the gate. He'll need all of the bipartisan support he can muster to get through that mess, and if he leads off with pushing for major changes to how the state deals with guns, he'll alienate some of the people he'll need for the budget crisis.

Boom Boom · Nov 25, 2014

SCARCQB said:
Give Gov. Elect Hogan some time.

Such as time to take office. The criticism already is unwarranted and sad. :sad20:

Dr Dano HPR · Nov 25, 2014

teratos said:
Tough crowd. Let's wait and see what he does before slinging mud.

I was at the MSRP annual dinner just before the election and the NRA representative (Shannon Alford?) said that if Brown wins it will be an all out effort to finish off what FSA2013 left behind. Said we would need an "All hands to the pumps" effort to stop the assault, bigger than 2013. I feel that we just got off the beach at Dunkirk and some want to cross the Rhine. I think we would do better to show up in March to show our support for Hogan and let the anti 2A crowd know that being our friends is better for their careers than hoping MOM brings them to Washington with him.

LoneRanger · Nov 25, 2014

trickg said:
+1 The man is not even in office yet, and although this is an important issue for us, realistically, on a state level, the budget mess has got to be top priority for him coming out of the gate. He'll need all of the bipartisan support he can muster to get through that mess, and if he leads off with pushing for major changes to how the state deals with guns, he'll alienate some of the people he'll need for the budget crisis.

He is easily going to me bogged down most of his first term just trying to keep 1/10 of the promises he made. It's going to be very difficult to make up the huge deficit left by O'Malley, reduce taxes plus have a balanced budget with a legislature controlled by the other party.....

dblas · Nov 25, 2014

Boom Boom said:
Or he's not and naysayers will look like armchair negative Nancy in retrospect. Wait and see. Keep expectations reasonable. Until then, it's nothing but conjecture.

This, perhaps he will under promise and over deliver.

Afrikeber · Nov 25, 2014

I voted for him and I'll give the man time to make things right in MD. If after this voting cycle I see no action on 2a either active or passive within the Maryland bureaucracy then he becomes the same trash I just threw out. I vote issues not party.

Alea Jacta Est · Nov 25, 2014

...and the wisdom to know the difference.

jrumann59 · Nov 25, 2014

He can make appointments to help with G&S during his term(s) but it is only a band aid because once he is out, and most likely another democrat is elected, all those that get CCW with self defense for G&S will have their permits not renewed. He needs to work with the MDGA and have the definition of G&S written in stone so it is not so easily re-interpreted every administration change.

danb · Nov 25, 2014

Not even sworn in yet and there is a veto-proof Dem majority in the legislature.

Oh, never mind. Daddy I want a golden goose now.

Lou45 · Nov 25, 2014

abean4187 said:
Did anyone expect something different? He's not Obama, he can't just make laws without Congress.

Let's focus on the court battles for now and if we lose them we can try at the state level again.

This ^^^ plus not to mention we have 21 other states that are fighting for us too.

cap6888 said:
Sounds reasonable at this point in time. He has more pressing issues. He can defer it to the courts, and not put up a fight. That way in the end he can sit back and tell the anti gun libtards, "it was the courts, not me."

Docster said:
Another misleading thread title....

I agree with many of the posters and I've been saying this since the election. There are many other things that Hogan has to deal with; from the linked article:

He ran on the platform of rolling back tax increases and cutting spending. But the state of Maryland has a budget shortfall of nearly $600 million.

There are some things he can do regarding gun issues in the state, but he'd be a fool to do them FIRST. We be the fools to expect him to.

This ^^^

DoubleTap007 said:
I think the smart thing to do is exactly what he did.

With so many outside parties challenging SB281 he doesn't really need to get involved. Smart move.

I would rather see him write a nice little letter indicating that "Lawful self-defense" is a G&S for CCW.

May or most likely may not happen, at least during his first two years in office.

ras_oscar said:
Larry Hogan didn't promise that to you, Anthony Brown did.

I like your twist there........... Perhaps we should file a lawsuit against Brown for not coming through on his promise of "ass-halt rifles laying around in grocery stores and kid's playgrounds" if Hogan got elected.

Storm40 · Nov 25, 2014

jrumann59 said:
He can make appointments to help with G&S during his term(s) but it is only a band aid because once he is out, and most likely another democrat is elected, all those that get CCW with self defense for G&S will have their permits not renewed. He needs to work with the MDGA and have the definition of G&S written in stone so it is not so easily re-interpreted every administration change.

actually, i'd take 4 years of freedom, even knowing it was fleeting, over one more day without.

swinokur · Nov 25, 2014

IANAL, buy what justification would the state use to revoke permits if a new MSP superintendent appointed by someone other than a 2A friendly Gov.decided to go back to the old G&S? Would there be a 14A claim?

This is one reason I'd like to see a change sooner rather than later. More time to debunk the "blood in the streets" myth.

Of course legislation is always more desirable than COMAR regs.

Mr H · Nov 25, 2014

This needs to be a 2-stage process, where a new Superintendent comes into place for administrative changes, and we work through the GA to codify anything we need for permanency.

swinokur · Nov 25, 2014

agreed sir

mxrider · Nov 25, 2014

swinokur said:
IANAL, buy what justification would the state use to revoke permits if a new MSP superintendent appointed by someone other than a 2A friendly Gov.decided to go back to the old G&S? Would there be a 14A claim?

This is one reason I'd like to see a change sooner rather than later. More time to debunk the "blood in the streets" myth.

Of course legislation is always more desirable than COMAR regs.

They wouldn't be able to revoke permits, but most likely would deny renewals.

Gryphon · Nov 25, 2014

Mr H said:
This needs to be a 2-stage process, where a new Superintendent comes into place for administrative changes, and we work through the GA to codify anything we need for permanency.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

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