Bel Air Gun & Pawn Closing Up Shop

Name Taken · Jul 23, 2014

dckhd247 said:
An acquaintance of mine went in this store just before 10/1 to buy a lower. He filled out all the paperwork, paid, picked up his lower and walked out of the store. I told him it was nuts and I'm sure they'd realize their error. A few months later they called and told him he was "not disapproved" and he could come in to pick up his lower anytime.

Oddly enough what he did seems largely legal once you start breaking down the laws.

It's just that MSP doesn't see it that way yet...but they've got a good bit wrong before (denial of 8th day release, .22 copy cats as regulated, Saiga 12 not C&C) so take it for what it's worth.

I'm of the belief, and so are others, that AR lowers SHOULD BE C&C according to the law. Once MSP catches on I'll be buying mine again.

They shouldn't be selling them as "handguns" because THEY COULD BE made into a handgun. They should be sold not regulated as they could also be made in HBAR configuration which is legal for C&C. If the person who buys the lower plans on making it a pistol it would be on them to follow the registration law (if it even applies...I haven't looked into that aspect of it).

dckhd247 · Jul 24, 2014

Name Taken said:
Oddly enough what he did seems largely legal once you start breaking down the laws.

It's just that MSP doesn't see it that way yet...but they've got a good bit wrong before (denial of 8th day release, .22 copy cats as regulated, Saiga 12 not C&C) so take it for what it's worth.

I'm of the belief, and so are others, that AR lowers SHOULD BE C&C according to the law. Once MSP catches on I'll be buying mine again.

They shouldn't be selling them as "handguns" because THEY COULD BE made into a handgun. They should be sold not regulated as they could also be made in HBAR configuration which is legal for C&C. If the person who buys the lower plans on making it a pistol it would be on them to follow the registration law (if it even applies...I haven't looked into that aspect of it).

I'm sorry, but I don't even know what you're talking about. You can't even buy lowers in MD and you're saying you'll start again once MSP catches on.

teratos · Jul 24, 2014

dckhd247 said:
I'm sorry, but I don't even know what you're talking about. You can't even buy lowers in MD and you're saying you'll start again once MSP catches on.

Yes, you can buy lowers in MD. New ruling, since they can be made into HBARs or pistols, both of which are still legal.

Name Taken · Jul 24, 2014

dckhd247 said:
I'm sorry, but I don't even know what you're talking about. You can't even buy lowers in MD and you're saying you'll start again once MSP catches on.

I guess you don't keep up with the latest and greatest news then.

eruby · Jul 24, 2014

Name Taken said:
I guess you don't keep up with the latest and greatest news then.

I suspect Richard Head will be banned in due course.

dckhd247 · Jul 24, 2014

Name Taken said:
I guess you don't keep up with the latest and greatest news then.

You're right, I haven't. Been away from this board for a couple months and totally missed it. Thank you for the info!

And to Eruby, not sure why I'd be banned??? Originally was just sharing an experience about the store that this thread was about...

LoneRanger · Jul 24, 2014

dckhd247 said:
You're right, I haven't. Been away from this board for a couple months and totally missed it. Thank you for the info!

And to Eruby, not sure why I'd be banned??? Originally was just sharing an experience about the store that this thread was about...

But wait....you just joined this month...something does not compute....

teratos · Jul 24, 2014

LoneRanger said:
But wait....you just joined this month...something does not compute....

Uh, oh. Bye-bye.....

good guy 176 · Jul 24, 2014

Well, the Gun Rack in Burtonsville closed its doors on the 28th of June (after 28 years) and Constitutional Firearms closed at the end of May (after a brief 2 year stint), both as a result of SB 281, and the shop in Elkridge is relocating to DE, so there are three that bit the dust, and all were worth keeping aboard.

Yeah, I'd say the Bill is doing what its sponsors had hoped it would.

Lew--Ranger63
Unsafe, MD 20769

dckhd247 · Jul 24, 2014

LoneRanger said:
But wait....you just joined this month...something does not compute....

Just joined and posted since I saw this post pop up and had a story about them. Have lurked for some time. Hope that it computes now. :thumbsup:

eruby · Jul 24, 2014

dckhd247, I saw you joined today, and the second of your four (now) posts (all in this thread) seemed to me to be trollish.

And your screen name looks to be dickhead twenty four seven.

If I was wrong, I apologize and will say Mea Culpa.

dckhd247 · Jul 24, 2014

eruby said:
dckhd247, I saw you joined today, and the second of your four (now) posts (all in this thread) seemed to me to be trollish.

And your screen name looks to be dickhead twenty four seven.

If I was wrong, I apologize and will say Mea Culpa.

Understood. Wasn't being a troll at all. I just didn't have the info on the lower thing since it just seems to have happened within the last 10 days or so.(which kinda makes me feel like my pre-october lower isn't as special now)

And yeah, its dickhead. But it's just a name. I'm cool.

honda53s · Jul 24, 2014

eruby said:
dckhd247, I saw you joined today, and the second of your four (now) posts (all in this thread) seemed to me to be trollish.

And your screen name looks to be dickhead twenty four seven.

If I was wrong, I apologize and will say Mea Culpa.

Ban Hammer!

4095fanatic · Jul 26, 2014

Not a great selection when I was in there... a sporterized 43 Mosin for $400-500, 223 ammo at 75 cents a round after discount...

RegularJay · Jul 26, 2014

Bought 1 gun when they were next to 7-11 they were A-holes. I never went back but have bought many guns since then from somewhere else, perhaps if they hadn't been such elitist D-bags the first time all my subsequent purchases would have been from them. Multiply my experience by many others and you end up with what they have now, a lousy rep for service and a failed business.

DutchV · Jul 27, 2014

Bank Gun & Pawn is done. Went by a few weeks ago, and was sad to see that they had closed up.

Gun Connection has been good to me. I've gotten some fair deals there, and the guys all seemed fine.

I don't think I'll miss Bel Air Gun much. The old guys were grumpy, as if it was a bother to have to talk to me. Too bad for them.

Landwarrior · Jul 27, 2014

Are you sure Bank and Gun Pawn is closed for good? Being it is a family business they sometimes close their store for family issues or vacations.

Just up the street is Estate Brokers of Maryland who was going or has closed. To add to that, the owner ran afoul by selling stun/taser guns in Harford Mall earlier this year.

glock9mm · Jul 27, 2014

I do not believe the Bank Gun & Pawn is closed as I heard reports less than a week ago that they were selling lowers. I have not been there in awhile and need to go there to confirm. They do close up shop for a couple weeks in the summer for vacation.

Estate Brokers has been closed for awhile now and it didn't close just because of the stun gun issue. I purchased several guns from there (don't know why I kept going back) and Debra had been losing business for awhile before the stun gun/taser issue...mainly due to not being there half the time, forgetting to send paperwork to MSP and several other reasons. Deb is a good lady but her businees ethics leave alot to be desired.

DutchV · Jul 27, 2014

Okay, so there were two gunshops in almost the same block? I must be thinking of Estate Brokers. They were definitely closed. I'll have to take another trip, then. Seems that my GPS has led me astray.

Crap - just checked Google maps. I was two blocks off. I'll try again next Saturday.

Landwarrior · Jul 27, 2014

Glock9mm,

I did not want to imply the stun issue was the reason Estate brokers closed, it was more oh by the way comment.

I also had a number of good dealings with Debra in the past, but during the backlog last year she did not do herself any good by raising transfer fees once we had an agreement. As you stated she was not in the store most of the times when I was there looking to do some last minute transfers.

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