.22lr Misfires

The #1 community for Gun Owners of the Northeast

Member Benefits:

  • No ad networks!
  • Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership
  • Discuss anti-gun legislation
  • Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section
  • Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses
  • Discover free outdoor shooting areas
  • View up to date on firearm-related events
  • Share photos & video with other members
  • ...and so much more!
  • Art3

    Eqinsu Ocha
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 30, 2015
    13,267
    Harford County
    That's the one Art. On the box it says "Target Grade Accuracy", what a lie. They must use the same marketing company that the Demorats do. :mad54:

    Yeah...:sad20: I've heard that, long before the shortage, that stuff was actually pretty decent but during the race to keep up production and stretch materials as far as possible, they sacrificed QC. People scoff at Thunderbolts. I would (and maybe have :innocent0) gladly buy Thunderbolts before this stuff ever again. In the worst of the dearth, I saw boxes of this crap with $75 price tags on it :mad54: I may have overpaid a little too...but certainly not that much.

    Maybe if I had a .22 machine gun to burn it up...

    ...no, it would jam and still be frustrating.:rolleyes:
     

    Magnumite

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 17, 2007
    6,561
    Harford County, Maryland
    I refused to use Thuderbolts for years before the recent ammo “shortage”. Anyway, during the shortage I bought a box at a very reasonable price simply because I needed something to practice with. Turned out to be decent stuff. Still is...at least in my guns.
     
    Last edited:

    Uncle Duke

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 2, 2013
    11,665
    Not Far Enough from the City
    I refuse use Thuderbolts for years before the recent ammo “shortage”. Anyway, during the shortage I bought a box at a very reasonable price simply because I needed something to practice with. Turned out to be decent stuff. Still is...at least in my guns.

    Funny, this thread. I not too long ago finished up some Thunderbolts I’d had for 25 years or more. No real problems. I also recently shot Federal Auto Match that cycled well in my Ruger rifle and pistol, and shot with good precision in my CZ. Luck of the draw I guess is what comes to my mind, with rimfire especially.
     
    That Thunderbolt ammo cycles in my 10/22 just fine, but they will not cycle in any of my pistols.

    Also I can't seem to find it, but I distinctly remember the CCI Troy Landry ammo having some issues depending on what you used it in. I don't know why it was just that specific one, and I can't find the write-up about it now. Honestly I can't remember if I saw the issues posted here or somewhere else on the interwebs
     

    G O B

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 17, 2007
    1,940
    Cen TX
    NEVER use a rim fire as a carry piece! There is a reason that larger rim fire calibers went obsolete! It will never be as reliable or consistent as center fire primers.
     

    Doctor_M

    Certified Mad Scientist
    MDS Supporter
    I have not shot any newer Rem GB, but in the past, it was about the same as CCI. Good, solid ammo.

    I have some of the PMC Target, not sure how much.

    Honestly, I've probably run through 12 or 15 thousand rounds of Golden Bullet over the last couple of years, all of it purchased right around the Sandyhook drought, and probably had 4 or 5 duds and maybe as many crushed projectile FTF issues out of all of those rounds. I pretty much shoot this as a general plinking/target round in almost all of my handguns and rifles. I've never had any significant issues with it. Your mileage may vary, but I shoot the hell out of the stuff.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,728
    Socialist State of Maryland
    Honestly, I've probably run through 12 or 15 thousand rounds of Golden Bullet over the last couple of years, all of it purchased right around the Sandyhook drought, and probably had 4 or 5 duds and maybe as many crushed projectile FTF issues out of all of those rounds. I pretty much shoot this as a general plinking/target round in almost all of my handguns and rifles. I've never had any significant issues with it. Your mileage may vary, but I shoot the hell out of the stuff.

    The issues with Rem Golden Bullets weren't so much FTF, it really had to do with the lube they used that would gunk up semi autos. Maybe they have changed their lube, I don't know since I haven't used them in years.
     

    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    22,154
    .22's are notorious for being picky about ammo and .22 precision shooters do a lot of ammo testing to determine what shoots best in their particular rifle, they will then stock up on the exact Lot number of ammo and when they run out start testing again. Even different guns of the same make and model will shoot best with different ammo.

    You can see for yourself what differences ammo makes not only in group size but also in point of impact just get a number of different makes and types of .22 ammo and shoot a number of 5 or 10 shot groups from a rest. Don't change anything except the ammo and you will see group size and location changes.

    Here is a link to the most extensive .22 ammo testing example I have seen, different ammo, different rifles, different ranges.
    http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8711043/m/7531057281

    Why this happens? Here is an article about what Ely discovered when they studied the variables in ammunition making.
    https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/ammunition_eley_101405/99277

    When you are really chasing accuracy even more variables effect things as noted in this article.
    http://www.benchrest.com/csaccuracy/eleybythenumbers.html

    Ely has even established special test ranges around the world to help shooters find the best lot numbers for their particular guns.
    http://eley.co.uk/test-ranges/

    Just remember what works best in someone else's gun may shoot lousy in your gun. It isn't you, the gun, or the ammo it is the combination of all three and the atmospheric conditions at the time you shoot.

    Here is another article about .22 firing pins.
    https://gundigest.com/gear-ammo/reloading/firing-pin-impact-a-key-to-rimfire-accuracy

    Rimfire Firing-Pin Indent Copper Crusher Part 1
    https://www.coxmanufacturing.com/assets/images/blog/Industrial-HT-February-2017-Cox.pdf

    Rimfire Firing-Pin Indent Copper Crusher Part 2
    https://www.coxmanufacturing.com/assets/files/copper-crusher-part-2.pdf
     
    Last edited:

    Users who are viewing this thread

    Latest posts

    Forum statistics

    Threads
    274,916
    Messages
    7,258,559
    Members
    33,348
    Latest member
    Eric_Hehl

    Latest threads

    Top Bottom