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  • babalou

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    Aug 12, 2013
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    Glenelg
    Hmm

    Here in Montgomery the fire department responds and orders you to put out the fire, claiming you can be cited for not having a permit. After several emails to the office of the fire chief, county environmental protection and county permitting, I finally received official documentation that a fire pit is perfectly legal in Montgomery County on private property. This post reminds me that I need to print and laminate it for the next time station 15 responds out and orders me to put it out.

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    Do you have that to share? Parents live in Twinbrook and have one of those wire fireboxes. I live in Germantown in a th and would like to do the same.
     

    MeatGrinder

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 27, 2013
    2,418
    MoCo, Eastern edge
    Here in Montgomery the fire department responds and orders you to put out the fire, claiming you can be cited for not having a permit. After several emails to the office of the fire chief, county environmental protection and county permitting, I finally received official documentation that a fire pit is perfectly legal in Montgomery County on private property. This post reminds me that I need to print and laminate it for the next time station 15 responds out and orders me to put it out.

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    That's interesting, we have not ever dealt with the fire department when we have a campfire in the backyard. Makes me think someone keeps turning you in.

    My understanding is that you can only have a fire in MoCo if it is for cooking. So have some marshmallows nearby.
     

    spoon059

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 1, 2018
    5,396
    Do you have that to share? Parents live in Twinbrook and have one of those wire fireboxes. I live in Germantown in a th and would like to do the same.

    Yup. https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/DPS/Resources/Files/FPCC/outdoorfire.pdf

    I finally got this information from a program manager in the Fire Code Compliance Section, Montgomery County Fire Marshal Office, Department of Permitting Services. Clearly states a permit is NOT required, but gives guidelines for when the fire department can order you to extinguish.
     

    spoon059

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    Jun 1, 2018
    5,396
    That's interesting, we have not ever dealt with the fire department when we have a campfire in the backyard. Makes me think someone keeps turning you in.

    My understanding is that you can only have a fire in MoCo if it is for cooking. So have some marshmallows nearby.
    That's what I was always told by my local FFs, but its not true. I always had a pack of hotdogs nearby in the past, it never mattered, I was still told it was illegal and needed to be put out. After the 2nd time, I started reaching out and got the literature I posted above.

    A neighbor behind us and across the street would always call in any of us that had a firepit, claiming a house was on fire. She was the grown daughter of the elderly couple, apparently she has some mental health issues. I've never met her, only met the parents years ago.
     

    MocoJed

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    Nov 16, 2015
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    Loco Moco
    The transfer station also won't accept used motor oil, but will accept hazardous materials.... I'd really like to get rid of a few gallons of motor oil and not store it until January. Never once in the past 5 years of changing oil have I ever been in a situation there where social distancing wasn't easily accomplished. Most trips in the past I was never within 40 feet of any other humans.
     

    tohit

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    Apr 28, 2020
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    The transfer station also won't accept used motor oil, but will accept hazardous materials.... I'd really like to get rid of a few gallons of motor oil and not store it until January. Never once in the past 5 years of changing oil have I ever been in a situation there where social distancing wasn't easily accomplished. Most trips in the past I was never within 40 feet of any other humans.

    Are you close to gburg? there is a little hut thing I go to that is behind Aldi there. You just walk up and dump it in to a sink looking thing
     

    dontpanic

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    Jul 7, 2013
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    Timonium
    The transfer station also won't accept used motor oil, but will accept hazardous materials.... I'd really like to get rid of a few gallons of motor oil and not store it until January. Never once in the past 5 years of changing oil have I ever been in a situation there where social distancing wasn't easily accomplished. Most trips in the past I was never within 40 feet of any other humans.

    In Baltimore County they don't check IDs at recycling. If you are ever up this way
     

    mpollan1

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    Sep 26, 2012
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    The transfer station also won't accept used motor oil, but will accept hazardous materials.... I'd really like to get rid of a few gallons of motor oil and not store it until January. Never once in the past 5 years of changing oil have I ever been in a situation there where social distancing wasn't easily accomplished. Most trips in the past I was never within 40 feet of any other humans.

    Advance Auto has (or at least had) oil recycling tanks on site. I always called ahead since the one time I got there and the tank was full.
     

    mpollan1

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    Sep 26, 2012
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    Yes I have and it's a cluster. You have to be a landscaper/contractor and bring "your papers" (LITERALLY what the lady told me) - meaning a contract from your customer verifying that you are doing contract work. Homeowners cannot dump trash or yard waste, but the recycling is open.
    Just about every vehicle was being turned around and sent back home. Infuriating.

    Well at least you can find solace on the way home and grab a bottle of fire water. I just don't get it...:confused:
     

    tallen702

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    Sep 3, 2012
    5,115
    In the boonies of MoCo
    Here in Montgomery the fire department responds and orders you to put out the fire, claiming you can be cited for not having a permit. After several emails to the office of the fire chief, county environmental protection and county permitting, I finally received official documentation that a fire pit is perfectly legal in Montgomery County on private property. This post reminds me that I need to print and laminate it for the next time station 15 responds out and orders me to put it out.

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    Too many nosy neighbors if that's happening to you. Up here in the ag reserve, we had one guy on the street with a vendetta against his neighbor (dude is a class-A A-hole, his neighbor is fine, he's just mad that the neighbor got the courts to smack down a false adverse possession claim). He called the Hyattstown Vol. Fire Dept every time his neighbor started a burn. They'd come out, look at it, say "you know, you're not really supposed to burn outside of a barrel," shrug, and go home. They started ignoring his calls about it after the third call out for the same thing.

    Everyone up here openly burns. We're all on at least 1/2ac or more. Nobody burns on red flag days or when things have been dry for too long. I've taken care of 8 quite large trees on my property this way.
     

    willtill

    The Dude Abides
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    May 15, 2007
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    The transfer station also won't accept used motor oil, but will accept hazardous materials.... I'd really like to get rid of a few gallons of motor oil and not store it until January. Never once in the past 5 years of changing oil have I ever been in a situation there where social distancing wasn't easily accomplished. Most trips in the past I was never within 40 feet of any other humans.

    Take your oil to any Jiffy Lube. They'll take it for free.
     

    shootin the breeze

    Missed it by that much
    Dec 22, 2012
    3,878
    Highland

    spoon059

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 1, 2018
    5,396
    Damn, is there a memo for how to wipe your ass too? I forgot how much I hate MoCo, not that HoCo is any better. Whom am I kidding? All of MD sucks.
    If there isn't one yet, there will be one eventually. 7 years and less than a month to retirement. I'm already looking at property in Tennessee...
     

    eruby

    Confederate Jew
    MDS Supporter
    This guy *IS* the problem. Power-grabbing small minded control freak he is, I sincerely hope someone has a lawsuit in the works to test the legality/constitutionality of his edicts about keeping MoCo shut down. IANAL or I'd be all over that.

    Just sayin'


    Marc B Elrich
    8110 Roanoke Ave
    Takoma Park, MD 20912
    Age 71 (Born Nov 1949)
    (301) 565-8272

    Marc B Elrich
    8001 Sligo Creek Pkwy
    Takoma Park, MD 20912
    Age 71 (Born 1949)
    (301) 587-2685

    Marc B Elrich
    2302 Coleridge Dr
    Silver Spring, MD 20910
    Age 71 (Born 1949)
    (301) 589-7150
     

    echo6mike

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    Feb 1, 2013
    1,794
    Close to DC
    While I'm in this thread though, has anyone gone to the transfer station recently to drop off any large junk into the dumpsters? We're heading for our third month with the bulk trash collection cancelled, and I've got a lot of crap I need to get rid of which I would normally put out for the County to pick up. Nothing so big that I can't take it and dump it myself, it will just take a few trips. IF the powers that be will consent to letting an ordinary subject^D citizen go and throw some trash away legally.

    I don't want to just dump sh!t in a park someplace, I really don't.
     

    tallen702

    Ultimate Member
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    Sep 3, 2012
    5,115
    In the boonies of MoCo
    While I'm in this thread though, has anyone gone to the transfer station recently to drop off any large junk into the dumpsters? We're heading for our third month with the bulk trash collection cancelled, and I've got a lot of crap I need to get rid of which I would normally put out for the County to pick up. Nothing so big that I can't take it and dump it myself, it will just take a few trips. IF the powers that be will consent to letting an ordinary subject^D citizen go and throw some trash away legally.

    I don't want to just dump sh!t in a park someplace, I really don't.

    I'm pretty sure eruby just gave you the locations of all the dump sites you need. ;)

    As for a suit against Elrich, someone just needs to give Robin Ficker a call. He'd do it pro-bono.
     

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