Harris: I’ll ‘Take Executive Action’

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  • rockstarr

    Major Deplorable
    Feb 25, 2013
    4,592
    The Bolshevik Lands
    To be fair, our president just abused executive power as well. Or at least tried to. Over a campaign promise...

    the difference will be, " Our President" gets his pee pee smacked by the courts. Do you think Queen Kamala would?


    I DON'T...
     

    davsco

    Ultimate Member
    Oct 21, 2010
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    no one gives one crap about all the distracted and drunk driving fatalities, zero push to ban phones or alcohol, but the constitution specifically protects firearms and yet everyone wants to outlaw them.
     

    rbird7282

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    Dec 6, 2012
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    Columbia
    Considering she would need to be President to do so, not worried about it. Ain’t gonna happen


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    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,496
    To be fair, our president just abused executive power as well. Or at least tried to. Over a campaign promise...

    Are you referring to the border wall funding? Do you not see a pretty large difference between an executive using tools within his authority to enforce laws on the books vs an executive creating new 2a infringements by fiat?
     

    Threeband

    The M1 Does My Talking
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    Dec 30, 2006
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    From what I caught on the radio, her number one decree would be to order dealers to conduct background checks.

    Her number two decree would require the ATF to revoke the license of any dealer caught selling guns illegally.

    She says the ATF is strict on enforcing Alcohol and Tobacco laws, but not laws on Firearms.
     

    Norton

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    Good - let's finally see where the "majority" of the country is on gun control. I appreciate her not tap dancing around it.

    Now we just need someone from the so-called conservative voice in the Republican Party to step up and say that they support the 2A as an individual right without following it with "but" or "however".
     

    Allen65

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    Good - let's finally see where the "majority" of the country is on gun control. I appreciate her not tap dancing around it.

    At this stage in the 2020 campaign, it's all about getting attention from donors, not voters. The grabber talk is messaging to the deep pocket D donor base that care about that issue, to build campaign coffers. As time goes on, you'll see the messaging shift more towards stuff that D voters care about like jobs, education, and health care.
     

    Mark75H

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    Sep 25, 2011
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    During a town hall on CNN on Monday, 2020 presidential candidate Senator Kamala Harris (D-CA) vowed that if Congress doesn’t pass gun legislation within the first 100 days of her administration, she will “take executive action.”

    To me, she is saying she does not actually want to be president.
     

    Cornelius

    Trust Me, I Sell Cars
    Mar 5, 2019
    152
    MD
    Are you referring to the border wall funding? Do you not see a pretty large difference between an executive using tools within his authority to enforce laws on the books vs an executive creating new 2a infringements by fiat?

    declaring a national emergency and pilfering relief funds just to follow through with an unconstitutional campaign promise is not enforcing laws on the books. In fact, there are laws that prevent a border wall just as there are ones that prevent 2A restrictions. It's a pretty bad comparison, they are both idiotic.
     

    shootin the breeze

    Missed it by that much
    Dec 22, 2012
    3,878
    Highland
    declaring a national emergency and pilfering relief funds just to follow through with an unconstitutional campaign promise is not enforcing laws on the books. In fact, there are laws that prevent a border wall just as there are ones that prevent 2A restrictions. It's a pretty bad comparison, they are both idiotic.

    Please provide links to laws preventing a wall. I cannot find any. There are peripheral laws such as eminent domain, EPA, etc that must either be complied with or can be waived via the Real ID act but nothing I can find that says a wall can't be built. I admit, my Google-Fu isn't the strongest so perhaps there is something so I'll need you to show me.
     

    jrumann59

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    Feb 17, 2011
    14,024
    declaring a national emergency and pilfering relief funds just to follow through with an unconstitutional campaign promise is not enforcing laws on the books. In fact, there are laws that prevent a border wall just as there are ones that prevent 2A restrictions. It's a pretty bad comparison, they are both idiotic.

    I grew up in Missouri, Show Me. Where in the Constitution or what bill was passed that restricts a border wall, why did it not restrict parts of the existing wall in places???? I will give you the benefit of the doubt, due to join date, but I think you are talking out your ass.
     

    shootin the breeze

    Missed it by that much
    Dec 22, 2012
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    I grew up in Missouri, Show Me. Where in the Constitution or what bill was passed that restricts a border wall, why did it not restrict parts of the existing wall in places???? I will give you the benefit of the doubt, due to join date, but I think you are talking out your ass.

    You are much more direct than me. I guess I was too nice??
     

    MigraineMan

    Defenestration Specialist
    Jun 9, 2011
    19,218
    Frederick County
    declaring a national emergency and pilfering relief funds just to follow through with an unconstitutional campaign promise is not enforcing laws on the books. In fact, there are laws that prevent a border wall just as there are ones that prevent 2A restrictions. It's a pretty bad comparison, they are both idiotic.

    Last I checked, Section 3, Clause 5 of the US Constitution required the President to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." Since illegal entry into the country is, well, illegal ... and it's a Federal-jurisdiction issue, as the illegal-entry is into the country, not a State ... seems to fall well within the purview of the Executive Branch. The means of execution are largely at the discretion of the President.
     

    rbird7282

    Ultimate Member
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    Dec 6, 2012
    18,670
    Columbia
    declaring a national emergency and pilfering relief funds just to follow through with an unconstitutional campaign promise is not enforcing laws on the books. In fact, there are laws that prevent a border wall just as there are ones that prevent 2A restrictions. It's a pretty bad comparison, they are both idiotic.



    There is no law preventing a border wall, in fact, there was a law passed to build one during the Bush administration.
    An unconstitutional campaign promise?
    Lol


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    rbird7282

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    Dec 6, 2012
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    Last I checked, Section 3, Clause 5 of the US Constitution required the President to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." Since illegal entry into the country is, well, illegal ... and it's a Federal-jurisdiction issue, as the illegal-entry is into the country, not a State ... seems to fall well within the purview of the Executive Branch. The means of execution are largely at the discretion of the President.



    Bingo. Well within the President’s powers.


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    Cornelius

    Trust Me, I Sell Cars
    Mar 5, 2019
    152
    MD
    I misspoke, it is a right, not a law, that the government may not appropriate your land without issuing fair market value and without those lands being for public use.

    How does one determine fair market value for border property? Especially property that is coveted by the greatest nation on earth. Property that lies extensively in the hands of private citizens.

    How does one prove that a border wall is for public use? It is quite literally a barrier.

    The courts will destroy this thing.

    Say what you will about me, but maybe I'm an ass for assuming we all supported the constitution as a whole, not just 2A.

    Defying the constitution to fulfill a campaign promise, that is not an actual national emergency or homeland security threat is as bad as restricting gun rights.

    I like the Don, I voted for him. The wall will never and can never be built without stealing land from honest Americans and then pilfering their tax money to build something so pointless. I guess I always just assumed that he would come around and reinforce border presence and security, not actually still think it can be built.

    It has to stop.
     

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