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redeemed.man
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It's okay they are used to wasting taxpayer money.
They are setting aside big money to help defend illegals arrested by ICE. It's almost surreal to imagine something like this happening in the capital of any nation let alone this nation.
What I generally gather is the DC permit has no effect on Federal property. Where Federal property ends and DC public property begins is the question.
Not sure this was covered but any word on whether the training exemption would cover older training? I have 2 NRA classes plus range qualification, but they are 5-10 years old. Will they only accept new certifications? Have any of the current permit holders gotten the exemption with older forms of training?
You know what they will say, the press releases are already printed up for a willing press:
1) if it is anything short of a fully documented slam dunk self defense with the bad guy with ten prior murders eating a baby while shouting Allah Akbar and aiming a bazooka at the carrier, it will be the media theater we saw with Zimmerman. it will simply be about how DC is now the wild west thanks to the NRA
2) if DC violent crime rates don't change the story it will be how enabling concealed carry is proven to not reduce crime.
3) if DC violent crime rates do go down, it will be about how lower lead levels, abortion policy, and gentifrication are causing a decrease in crime
4) If violent crime rates rise it will be about how enabling carry increase crime, even if not one single concealed carrier commits a violent crime
5) Expect any story of any illegal carrier now killing or shooting someone to be simply a "concealed carrier."
Seriously we know how the majority of crimes prevented are going to be: Dark street, walking you dog or coming back from parking your car mugging attempt with a lethal weapon such as knife, screwdriver etc, or attempted car hijacking etc where the CCL is going to show the firearm and the bad guy is going to run. Are you going to report it? Be cuffed for a safety check? what if it is the one in a thousand times you may have 10+1 plus 10 instead of plus 9; or 6+1 plus 7 plus 7 instead of plus 6?
CypherPunk
Opinions Are My Own
- Apr 6, 2012
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The map is based on what I believe to be a misinterpretation of D.C. Law.
Don't let that stop you from applying for a D.C. Permit.
If I'm wrong, which I never am, at least you will have protection from possessing loose spent casings or globs of lead.
- Feb 19, 2013
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Fantastic, My training was July 2015.
So anyone know must I take the entire course over again? This would effect a few others here as well.
Peaceful John
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A few hundred thousand dollars could have paid for a lot of government benefitprograms.[/QUOTE said:
He's referring to the DC budget, not the Federal Govt.
Think of all the welfare checks they could have cut with that money.
Think of all the welfare checks they could have cut with that money.
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Fantastic, My training was July 2015.
So anyone know must I take the entire course over again? This would effect a few others here as well.
The way I read the statute the 2 year training threshold does not apply (necessarily) to one seeking the training exemption:
(c) Evidence of completion or intent to complete the firearms training requirements in § 2336 by:
(1) Proof of the applicant's completion of a firearm training course within the past two (2) years in the manner pre-scribed by the Chief in § 2336;
(2) Support for the applicant's request for an exemption from the firearm training course requirement as permitted by the Act; or
(3) If the applicant chooses to seek a preliminary approval pursuant to § 2339, then the applicant shall certify that he or she will provide proof of completion of the firearms training requirements within forty-five (45) days of the Chief's provisional approval of the application pursuant to § 2339;
If you applied and were turned down for lack of cause I would think you would be among the first to get that exemption. My training is older and I never applied, so my situation would be a bit different.
Then there's also the possibility the chief won't go for any training over the 2 year mark.
I got out of the Army in 1972. I have no intention of reenlisting to get recertified.
- Apr 26, 2012
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I got out of the Army in 1972. I have no intention of reenlisting to get recertified.
Where's your sense of adventure?
I don't think he's asking for an exemption. His training is stale but there is a possibility because he applied before his previous training may be accepted. He's waiting on a call back fom MPDC.
I think having a CCW from another state also helps those asking for an exemption. We have been told it's being done on a case by case basis.
I think having a CCW from another state also helps those asking for an exemption. We have been told it's being done on a case by case basis.
Klunatic
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Crossposted due to relevance:
https://crimeresearch.org/2017/10/d...-effectively-ban-anyone-legally-carrying-gun/
The biggest gun free zone in DC is EVERY private residence. Unless the owner gives you permission all private homes are off limits.
Sort of like, we know it when we see it!
Would like to know if anyone took the exemption route and what training they submitted.
Paul Kersey approves of this post.Remain calm.. Do like Bernie..
I'm going to apply with the training exemption after I take a law class at the end of the month.
i'll let you know how it turns out.
The DC page at handgunlaw has been updated with all the latest info, including AG FAQ link, and a link to te DC Alcohol license page to show exemptions for restaurant and hotels. Parking lot data updated as well.
The map will be updated shortly
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The map will be updated shortly
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DC is not in any way alone in that, examples:
Louisiana:
South Carolina:
There are also addition jurisdictions where the law does not say you have to ask permission first, but does say you must inform first, which is virtually the same thing from a practical perspective.
Frankly in places like DC this law doesn't do any harm and has no impact for me
I always find it amusing that people think their 2A rights not only extends into someone else's private property, but that it carries more weight than private property rights
Just like this forum, their house, their rules.
Just like this forum, their house, their rules.
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