Split the Ninth!

CrazySanMan · Feb 9, 2017

Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/09/bill-to-split-nutty-9th-circuit-gains-momentum.html

Republican Sens. Jeff Flake and John McCain of Arizona introduced legislation last month to carve six states out of the San Francisco-based court circuit and create a brand new 12th Circuit.

They argue that the 9th is too big, too liberal and too slow resolving cases. If they succeed, only California, Oregon, Hawaii and two island districts would remain in the 9th's judicial fiefdom.

zoostation · Feb 9, 2017

CrazySanMan said:
Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/09/bill-to-split-nutty-9th-circuit-gains-momentum.html

Watch the dems scream over this one. Daily Hitler comparison coming from MSM commentators in 3, 2, 1.......

Oh well, sucks to be you libs. Gerrymandering everything around is just fine when you are in charge.

swinokur · Feb 9, 2017

so if their caseload is halved, what do they do with the extra uber liberal judges? send them to the 12th?

what does this accomplish politically?

Jim12 · Feb 9, 2017

This sounds like a good idea worth pursuing. At warp speed.

Also, there are currently a lot of federal judicial vacancies at all levels, that Trump and the R's should fill. At warp speed.

CrazySanMan · Feb 9, 2017

Jim12 said:
This sounds like a good idea worth pursuing. At warp speed.

Also, there are currently a lot of federal judicial vacancies at all levels, that Trump and the R's should fill. At warp speed.

That last post sounds pretty warped to me!

tkd4life · Feb 9, 2017

zoostation said:
Oh well, sucks to be you libs. Gerrymandering everything around is just fine when you are in charge.

This sums it up perfect. I once had a very liberal guy complain to me once about the gerrymandering that happens out west. I asked him if he had seen the districts for Maryland. His response was that the Republican gerrymander more so what happens in Maryland is justified. :sad20:

Drmsparks · Feb 9, 2017

democrats and republicans have been talking about splitting the 9th for years. The judges are obviously opposed because it would dilute their power

MikeTF · Feb 9, 2017

I keep getting the feeling that Trump is several steps ahead of the Dems and the liberals. This is a scary kind of genius if he is. I speculated before the election that he and Ryan (the establishment Republicans) might be faking their animosity toward each other so that he could not only win the election but also have both houses of Congress be a Republican majority. That's what happened.

Right now we have in play: 1) reversal of the Johnson Amendment, 2) building a wall (securing the borders), 3) deporting illegal aliens, 4) restricting immigration, 5) building things in America, 6) defeating ISIS, 7) rebuilding our military, 8) rebuilding our infrastructure, 9) becoming energy independent, etc.

This could be transformational.

zoostation · Feb 9, 2017

MikeTF said:
I keep getting the feeling that Trump is several steps ahead of the Dems and the liberals. This is a scary kind of genius if he is. I speculated before the election that he and Ryan (the establishment Republicans) might be faking their animosity toward each other so that he could not only win the election but also have both houses of Congress be a Republican majority. That's what happened.

Right now we have in play: 1) reversal of the Johnson Amendment, 2) building a wall (securing the borders), 3) deporting illegal aliens, 4) restricting immigration, 5) building things in America, 6) defeating ISIS, 7) rebuilding our military, 8) rebuilding our infrastructure, 9) becoming energy independent, etc.

This could be transformational.

I agree. He seems to be skilled at using distraction to close a deal. And the leftists are so emotional and easily baited it's easy to get them to look at the left hand which is giving them the middle finger when in reality they should be looking at the right hand that is writing out the orders.

I also think his comment about how he's replacing Scalia with a similar judge but might appoint a more moderate guy next time to likely be just salesmanship to get Gorsuch through. I think we are getting another Scalia every time on his SCOTUS appointments, and I am loving it. :lol2:

danb · Feb 9, 2017

Do it, now.

If a circuit needs to have a lottery to have an en banc panel, it's too big. All the of the arguments against it are silly. One of the new split circuits will still be uber liberal, and therefore provide the conflict needed to advance a case.

Really, they should add two justices to the Supreme Court as well, to lighten the load.

krucam · Feb 9, 2017

Looks like the 'Nutty 9th' would be able to keep it's moniker as CA/HI/OR along with Guam and Marianas Islands would remain under CA9.

The new 12th Circuit would gather up the remaining states.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/p...5-other-states-nutty-9th-circuit-court-may-be

motorcoachdoug · Feb 9, 2017

Lets take Oregon out of the 9th and give them Alaska in its place
As i say those famous words from Star Trek The next Generation to have it done
"Engage"

danb · Feb 9, 2017

motorcoachdoug said:
Lets take Oregon out of the 9th and give them Alaska in its place
As i say those famous words from Star Trek The next Generation to have it done
"Engage"

Honestly, what we really should do is split California. Half would go in the old 9th circus, half in the new one.

And maybe split the 9th into 3 districts maybe - 10, 10, and 9 judges

Hixster · Feb 9, 2017

It sounds like a good common sense idea, which surprises me that John McCain is involved.

Kharn · Feb 9, 2017

danb said:
Honestly, what we really should do is split California. Half would go in the old 9th circus, half in the new one.

And maybe split the 9th into 3 districts maybe - 10, 10, and 9 judges

A state can't span two circuits, otherwise state laws would be valid or invalid depending on where you're standing.

BigSteve57 · Feb 9, 2017

Kharn said:
A state can't span two circuits, otherwise state laws would be valid or invalid depending on where you're standing.

I think that would be just great for California. Heck split it 3 ways.

danb · Feb 9, 2017

Kharn said:
A state can't span two circuits, otherwise state laws would be valid or invalid depending on where you're standing.

Exactly. When I said "split California" I meant split it into several states.

Doitsouthstyle · Feb 9, 2017

I thought California was leaving???

zoostation · Feb 9, 2017

Kharn said:
A state can't span two circuits, otherwise state laws would be valid or invalid depending on where you're standing.

In California's case that might not be a bad thing!

BigSteve57 · Feb 9, 2017

zoostation said:
In California's case that might not be a bad thing!

Yep, for a lucky few what is legal in the living room might be illegal in the dining room.

Good for California.

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