Lesser known C&R pistols

mawkie · Oct 16, 2013

-Z/28- said:
Alright I had to look that MAC up on google. Appears it's based on the 1911 and looks pretty cool. How'd it shoot and how much do they normally go for? (Searching online I can't find any for sale)

EDIT: Further searching reveals these are uber rare in the US because of some ridiculous UN treaty. Oh well.

Yup. The only examples you'll find are Vietnam vet bring backs (mine) and a couple hundred imported from S. Vietnam in the 60's. That's it. The French signed onto the UN Small Arms treaty that Obama signed recently (luckily a worthless gesture at this time because he can't get 2/3rds of the Senate to vote for it) and they are destroying all of their Model 1950s instead of selling them, which is how all those nice MAS 1949 and 1949/56s got here.

Alphabrew · Oct 17, 2013

-Z/28- said:
Alright I had to look that MAC up on google. Appears it's based on the 1911 and looks pretty cool. How'd it shoot and how much do they normally go for? (Searching online I can't find any for sale)

EDIT: Further searching reveals these are uber rare in the US because of some ridiculous UN treaty. Oh well.

Ah crap wish I still had it now. Was not accurate at all.

Alphabrew · Oct 17, 2013

Lou45 said:
The new form (77R) is formatted for C&R handgun purchase without the requirement for HQL.

By the time Shooters Discount gets to the Frederick gun show this November, we should have quite a few of the gun types mentioned in this thread (Dr. Louie has been workin' on this).

Dr. Louie may offer a free prostate exam with each purchase! :lol2:

Seriously that's great news, I'll be at that show for sure.

bkraft · Oct 17, 2013

The Manurhin PPs are all C&R as well. Fairly easy to find in .22 and .32acp. Not too hard on the budget.

Machodoc · Oct 17, 2013

stu929 said:
While I disagree about the worn out crap comment here is a pick of my 399 Sarco Sistema as received from Sarco.

Yours is not one of the "arsenal" re-done Sistemas, though. I'd also point out that, while you'll have a pretty gun after you have cleaned and blued the piece, you'll have about as much time and money into it as one that has the original finish ... and it won't have nearly the collector resale value as one that's still original.

I can understand wanting a nice-looking handgun, and I can also understand the pride in doing work on it on your own. But (as has been said here many times) this is a C&R group, and we want newcomers to know the difference between a collectible piece and one that's been worked on to the detriment of the gun's value ... no matter how pretty that work might make it.

Docster · Oct 17, 2013

fivepointstar said:
how about the Egyptian Maadi Helwin 9mm. Beretta had contract Maadi to copy the M1951. nice pistol and pretty accurate @ 25yds. I think it snappy but its worth it

Do some research on the Helwan; most says the quality was somewhat less than the Beretta and there were resulting parts failures.

yellowsled · Oct 17, 2013

I have a maadi helwan. It's a great shooter and I haven't had a problem with it.

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