VA: Bills advance out of committee

PowPow · Jan 26, 2020

Looks like they're going for the gusto in the VA House. These all were advanced out of committee to the floor with extremely limited debate.

HB2, HB335 Criminalize private transfers
HB9 24 hour lost or stolen
HB421 Allow local gun control ordinances
HB72,HB463,HB1083 No minor hunting or firearm use without parental supervision
HB674 Red flag
HB812, HB1502 One gun per 30 days

HB961 is still in committee.

The Cam Edwards story discussing the above is found here:

https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/01/25/six-gun-control-measures-va-house/

Allen65 · Jan 26, 2020

PowPow said:
Looks like they're going for the gusto in the VA House. These all were advanced out of committee to the floor with extremely limited debate.

HB2, HB335 Criminalize private transfers

HB9 24 hour lost or stolen

HB421 Allow local gun control ordinances

HB72,HB463,HB1083 No minor hunting or firearm use without parental supervision

HB674 Red flag

HB812, HB1502 One gun per 30 days

HB961 is still in committee.

The Cam Edwards story discussing the above is found here:

https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/01/25/six-gun-control-measures-va-house/

The bill removing state pre-emption may be the single most dangerous bill. The result in short order would be a patchwork of laws, some likely extreme, that would have to be fought in court individually. That would be unaffordable for pro-2A groups. Game, set & match to Bloomberg.

davsco · Jan 26, 2020

Allen65 said:
The bill removing state pre-emption may be the single most dangerous bill. The result in short order would be a patchwork of laws, some likely extreme, that would have to be fought in court individually. That would be unaffordable for pro-2A groups. Game, set & match to Bloomberg.

a huge risk to ccw'ers. it's one thing to have to worry about state-to-state carry laws being different, but just 'going into town' for dinner in an adjacent county or town could present with different laws being in place.

Falkus · Jan 26, 2020

They are going all out in VA. I never thought I would see that day....

Applehd · Jan 26, 2020

BeoBill · Jan 26, 2020

They want to turn VA into MOCO!

Biggfoot44 · Jan 26, 2020

Montgomery Co Va is offended by your alluding a similarity to Montgomery Co Md .

esqappellate · Jan 26, 2020

Allen65 said:
The bill removing state pre-emption may be the single most dangerous bill. The result in short order would be a patchwork of laws, some likely extreme, that would have to be fought in court individually. That would be unaffordable for pro-2A groups. Game, set & match to Bloomberg.

Yup, even if the person had a VA carry permit, the locality could criminalize the possession. Crazy, especially in Northern VA, with all its localities. I won't be shopping in VA if this passes.

whistlersmother · Jan 26, 2020

There are always unintended consequences should localities disarm CCW...

woodline · Jan 26, 2020

I find it interesting that Democrats want to prevent us from carrying by creating a patchwork of confusing CCW rules by locality, yet they seem to have conveniently refused to advance bills that would hold municipalities legally and financially liable for our safety if they disarm us.

fred55 · Jan 26, 2020

None of the Democrats gun laws are concerned with safety. It’s a full on attack on the 2A and the Constitution under the guise of safety. Only the weak minded believe the MSM and politicians prose. fred55

Occam · Jan 26, 2020

fred55 said:
None of the Democrats gun laws are concerned with safety. It’s a full on attack on the 2A and the Constitution under the guise of safety. Only the weak minded believe the MSM and politicians prose. fred55

It's really an attempt to make Virginia a place that conservatives/constitutionalists can't stand to live. Leaving the state to permanent ownership of those with a statist/collectivist frame of mind. When you make one of the hallmarks of the individualist ethos (the ability to defend oneself) away, those people don't suddenly become collectivists. They either hold their noses and stick around, or they get up and leave. The lefties love the "that's it, I'm moving to WV!" sentiment, because it just boosts their immovable hold on power. As they flip more states, so will they eventually flip the country. It's a deliberate, considered, long-term strategy.

whistlersmother · Jan 26, 2020

Until the thugs figure out NoVA has money and is unprotected. Then the leftists are moving again.

nedsurf · Jan 26, 2020

Occam said:
It's really an attempt to make Virginia a place that conservatives/constitutionalists can't stand to live. Leaving the state to permanent ownership of those with a statist/collectivist frame of mind. When you make one of the hallmarks of the individualist ethos (the ability to defend oneself) away, those people don't suddenly become collectivists. They either hold their noses and stick around, or they get up and leave. The lefties love the "that's it, I'm moving to WV!" sentiment, because it just boosts their immovable hold on power. As they flip more states, so will they eventually flip the country. It's a deliberate, considered, long-term strategy.

Agreed with everything you state here.

fred55 · Jan 26, 2020

I think the Democrats/liberals are going to be surprised by the conservatives in the Commonwealth of Virginia! We will not be flipped. They may be winning this brief skirmish but they will not win the battle. fred55

Allen65 · Jan 26, 2020

fred55 said:
I think the Democrats/liberals are going to be surprised by the conservatives in the Commonwealth of Virginia! We will not be flipped. They may be winning this brief skirmish but they will not win the battle..

What I see coming from the current Dem scorched earth tactics and revenge politics is retaliation in kind when the Reps take back over, and gut everything the Dems did and then some. And then Dems win back the state, and the cycle continues.

The end result is possible decades of statutory anarchy, not just with guns, but all "hot button" issues. And all of the citizens of VA end up losing. Political toxicity is slowly killing the concept of the constitutional republic, and I'm not sure how to stop it because pandering to the extremes and stirring up distrust and hatred is highly profitable to both political parties.

slsc98 · Jan 27, 2020

fred55 said:
I think the Democrats/liberals are going to be surprised by the conservatives in the Commonwealth of Virginia! We will not be flipped. They may be winning this brief skirmish but they will not win the battle. fred55

I pray for this to be the case ... on my knees with hands clasped praying, man!

OLM-Medic · Jan 27, 2020

esqappellate said:
Yup, even if the person had a VA carry permit, the locality could criminalize the possession. Crazy, especially in Northern VA, with all its localities. I won't be shopping in VA if this passes.

I guess that means you just have to constitutional carry

Lalez · Jan 27, 2020

OLM-Medic said:
I guess that means you just have to constitutional carry

If carrying properly, no one will ever know. Here in FL we carry legally everyday in shorts and t-shirts, and no one ever knows. Choice of pistol is key, Sig P365, Hellcat, Glock 43's are extremely popular here.

Point being, you can carry anywhere with a proper gun belt and IWB holster like a Vedder Lighttuck. Baltimore has "Constitutional Carry", they just don't realize it yet /s

Applehd · Jan 27, 2020

In Florida, it's LC9s Pro... IWB... everywhere else it's something larger... OWB. Just sayin'.

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