1941 German Leuchtpistole Z Kampfpistole

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  • Jul 1, 2012
    5,711
    A Black Friday Sale caused me to break my vow to steer away from German flare pistols (there are a lot of variations, and many are quite expensive).

    The Kampfpistole (Battle Pistol) is an LP-34 with a rifled barrel.
    The "Z" on the side is for "Züge" or "grooved".
    These were used to fire rifled rounds, basically mini-grenades and high-explosive, anti-tank rounds.
    The shells were a bit weird as the casing itself is rifled so it can be inserted into the barrel (that's an empty casing in the pic BTW).

    Two companies made them between 1940 and 1942, Walther ("ac") and Erma-Erfurt ("ayf").
    This one was made by Erma in 1941 and was accepted by the Heere (Army) based on the proliferation of E/280 Waffenamts.
    Even some of the screws are proofed.

    Ironically I'd picked up a vz.30 a couple months ago that came with an LP-34 holster and rare cleaning rod.

    The Kampfpistole is hard to find, and usually well outside what I'd spend on a flare gun - but this was "Mawkie-priced" so...
     

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    Jul 1, 2012
    5,711
    For grins here's the vz.30 (1933 date).
    They're pretty uncommon too; it's an odd beast similar to the H&R Mark IV with a swing-out breech.
     

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    Jul 1, 2012
    5,711
    The frame and barrel match; I'm not sure if any other parts are numbered.
    I usually take stuff apart... I might just leave this one alone though.
    It's Dural (aluminum alloy) and don't want to risk damaging threads etc.
     

    mawkie

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    Sep 28, 2007
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    Cool rig!! Have to think finding the holster and accessories would be a monumental task so I'm happy to see you get them all in one fell swoop. Something I'd never knew existed. I've been tempted to dip a toe into the flare pistol pool but I've been successful in resisting the urge up to now.
     

    Jimbob2.0

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    Feb 20, 2008
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    That's rifled. Interesting. Why would a Flare Pistol need to be rifled or is it just typical German overengineering?
     
    Jul 1, 2012
    5,711
    They issued these to fire armor-piercing rounds (anti-vehicle, etc) and other types of grenades.
    There was also an inclinometer that could be mounted on the side.
    A shoulder stock rig could be mounted, which made it a "Sturmpistole".

    ... both of those accessories are very rare (and expensive of course).
     
    Jul 1, 2012
    5,711
    Added an uncommon Erma LP-34-based derivative this week, the "Zink 4".
    This is made out of a zinc alloy vice aluminum, making it a lot heavier.
    It's dated 1943 with a low 3 digit S/N and in really nice shape.
    The little pin sticking out of the breech face is a loaded chamber indicator.
     

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    Oldcarjunkie

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    Jan 8, 2009
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    Added an uncommon Erma LP-34-based derivative this week, the "Zink 4".
    This is made out of a zinc alloy vice aluminum, making it a lot heavier.
    It's dated 1943 with a low 3 digit S/N and in really nice shape.
    The little pin sticking out of the breech face is a loaded chamber indicator.

    Nice man
     

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