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  • swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,394
    Westminster USA
    From a post on FB I was informed of.

    No idea of accuracy
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    Luigi2020

    Member
    Oct 21, 2013
    67
    Nottingham, MD
    This is a statement put out by the founder of USCCA

    I’ve recently discovered that some USCCA members are concerned with the recent passing of ‘Red Flag’ or Extreme Risk Protection Order (ERPO) laws. I’ve also seen responses from USCCA / Delta Defense staff to social media posts & inquiries regarding these laws.

    Needless to say, ‘Red Flag’ & ERPO laws make me very nervous. I’m sure these laws are designed to protect innocent people. But in my opinion, they allow for the confiscation of firearms without adequate due process and force citizens to prove their innocence rather than forcing the state to prove that a person is guilty. Furthermore, it would be far too easy to abuse these laws. Imagine losing your right to own a gun because someone with an axe to grind simply claims that you’re a danger.

    It is for these reasons that I want every USCCA member to know and understand that we will always have your back if you’re ever in an unfounded ‘Red Flag’ or ERPO situation. As responsibly armed Americans, we will always be under attack from the forces of evil who wish to take guns away from ALL law-abiding Americans.

    Thank you.

    Sincerely,

    Timothy J. Schmidt Sr.
    President & Founder - USCCA
     

    Qbeam

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 16, 2008
    6,074
    Georgia
    Sounds like, if you act like a douche, you're on your own. If it is a SJW scared of their own shadow, we will help.




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    Luigi2020

    Member
    Oct 21, 2013
    67
    Nottingham, MD
    He followed up with this:

    "I realize that you might have some questions about the specifics about how we would take care of you, our USCCA Member, in the event of an unfounded ‘Red Flag’ or ERPO situation. While I am still working out the details, I put up this post because I want you to have the peace of mind knowing that the USCCA has your back. I will be sharing more details as I get them finalized."
     

    Occam

    Not Even ONE Indictment
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 24, 2018
    20,239
    Montgomery County
    Good that he’s made that commitment. As a customer, I’ll be very curious about the details. Would be interesting for them to offer a rider that covers things like the value of the ammo you’ll never get back in the event of something like this.
     

    BeoBill

    Crank in the Third Row
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 3, 2013
    27,064
    南馬里蘭州鮑伊
    "...we have your back" is wide open to interpretation, IMO. Full disclosure: I am not a USCCA member; I have no axe to grind with them. I'm just making an observation.
     

    DutchV

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 8, 2012
    4,703
    I avoid these guys. Their marketing is a lot of low-budget scare tactics.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,394
    Westminster USA
    I thought their statement was ambiguous as well. What does “we have your back” mean in legal terms?

    Full disclosure I am not a USCCA customer either.

    I use CCW Safe
     

    ironpony

    Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jun 8, 2013
    7,191
    Davidsonville
    "we will always have your back if you’re ever in an unfounded ‘Red Flag’ or ERPO situation."


    When is guilty before proven innocent founded.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,394
    Westminster USA
    Yep the entire issue is red flags are an unsubstantiated ex parte claim against you.

    So any Red Flag claim denies due process which makes all of them unfounded.

    That sounds pretty lukewarm to me.

    IANAL
     

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