MSP Slowdown on HQL's?

Kharn · Oct 8, 2013

Winebike said:
I applied yesterday in early afternoon. As of this evening, no actions have been taken on my application.

My LiveScan technician said that my fingers tips were too worn to provide a good set of prints, so they will probably be rejected. In that case, I will have to submit another round or two of prints before they move forward with my HQL approval. Ugh! More delays.

The easy way to solve this is go see your doctor and ask for a note to say you have abrasions on your fingertips from your trade (or hobby, or whatever) and are under their care (he'll probably tell you to moisturize more, maybe give a prescription for some cream), but at this time your fingerprints will be extremely hard to record. I had to do it when I was undergoing treatment for a dermatology problem so the ATF wouldn't reject all my NFA forms due to smudges instead of fingerprints.

It turned out I am allergic to Hoppes and I need to wear gloves while using it, after a few months my prints returned to normal.

j8064 · Oct 8, 2013

Winebike said:
I applied yesterday in early afternoon. As of this evening, no actions have been taken on my application.

My LiveScan technician said that my fingers tips were too worn to provide a good set of prints, so they will probably be rejected. In that case, I will have to submit another round or two of prints before they move forward with my HQL approval. Ugh! More delays.

That makes zero sense. They own the LiveScan requirement. It's their equipment, technicians and technology. Your prints are what they are. You have no requirement to deliver "unworn and pristine" fingertips.
WTF?

weezy102 · Oct 8, 2013

What do they do with the fingerprints? Same thing they do with criminals fingerprints?

freddie · Oct 8, 2013

weezy102 said:
What do they do with the fingerprints? Same thing they do with criminals fingerprints?

I would imagine that they go into the nationwide database.

steves1911 · Oct 9, 2013

I applied last night and it still shows Mva photo unchecked and Documentation unchecked. I have a Md carry permit so it should be pretty straight forward and easy for them. Lets see how long it takes.

MrDman · Oct 9, 2013

I applied Monday night about 8:30 PM looked at it Tuesday morning nothing.

Looked at it 5:30 PM all done.

Guess it's luck of the draw.

Deep Creek Rock · Oct 9, 2013

I just rechecked my app progress this morning ... still nothing done. Think Im gonna have to call MSP, and find out what the deal is.

wvuguy88 · Oct 9, 2013

I know the finger print here in garrett county is like 38$ but what is the fee for the actual permit?

hvymax · Oct 9, 2013

This is the game. They act right till the lawsuits calm down and then go back to their normal Bad Faith shenanigans then when the lawsuits come they pretend to act right to moot the case rinse and repeat.

Deep Creek Rock · Oct 9, 2013

wvuguy88 said:
I know the finger print here in garrett county is like 38$ but what is the fee for the actual permit?

The licenese fee is $50. As far as I know Garrett Co Sheriffs office/courthouse is the only place doing Live Scan for $38.

Your other alternative is Scotts Security in LaVale, but I think they charge over $50 for the Livescan.

Jimbuck · Oct 9, 2013

I submitted mine 10/2 exempt with a permit. Mine sat with no progress. I emailed yesterday and the Trooper got right back to me, said he reviewed and it was now all done. I think some do get stuck in some loop and need a boost to move on.

Objee · Oct 9, 2013

The state fee for the background check(s) via the fingerprints is $34.50.

The "extra" amount is whatever the LiveScan provider wants to charge.

Pretty remarkable that Garrett County Sheriff's Office is only charging an extra $3.50 ($38 total) when Carroll County is charging $10 and Frederick County is charging $20.

Private companies are gouging people way beyond that, some charging an extra $30-$40 over the $34.50 state fee for a service that takes approx 10 minutes.

Capitalism, love it.

wvuguy88 · Oct 9, 2013

Looks like ill be making a trip to the court house tonight. Thanks guys

The sphinx · Oct 9, 2013

I have been complete since last week as far as the checklist. No progress since. Stuck in pending. My guess is they will wait until they get the results from the national fingerprint check. Which could take months. I would be shocked to have within 30 days

BUFF7MM · Oct 9, 2013

wvuguy88 said:
Looks like ill be making a trip to the court house tonight. Thanks guys

You need to call and make an appointment, they don't do walk ins.

swinokur · Oct 9, 2013

Most FBI IAFIS checks are completed in under 2 hours according to the FBI web page

How fast it works: The average response time for an electronic criminal fingerprint submission is about 27 minutes, while electronic civil submissions are processed within an hour and 12 minutes. IAFIS processed more than 61 million ten-print submissions during Fiscal Year 2010.

Sundazes · Oct 9, 2013

Jimbuck said:
I submitted mine 10/2 exempt with a permit. Mine sat with no progress. I emailed yesterday and the Trooper got right back to me, said he reviewed and it was now all done. I think some do get stuck in some loop and need a boost to move on.

This is exactly what I was talking about in my earlier post.

The sphinx · Oct 9, 2013

swinokur said:
Most FBI IAFIS checks are completed in under 2 hours according to the FBI web page

I'm sure that's correct. Of course that is once they get to you application which is the long part

wvuguy88 · Oct 9, 2013

Buff7mm said:
You need to call and make an appointment, they don't do walk ins.

Thanks for the heads up. I will here this morning

DD55 · Oct 9, 2013

Deep Creek Rock said:
Anyone else recenty submitted their HQL app & info, getting nowhere on it?

I did my fingerprinting, and completed my app & paid the fees, but everything is still at "Unchecked" My concern (besides having my 2a right infringed upon) is the live scan. It was stated they only stay in the system for 72 hours. So if they dont do the checks WTF happens now?

This is my screen shot when I log in and check my "checklist"

I submitted my application at night on 10/7 and it is now showing one incomplete, one pending and everything else complete

MSP Slowdown on HQL's?

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