Collectors application

welder516 · May 24, 2018

Would anyone know why a person with a Md Permit to carry would be denied a collectors form or letter .

SMH

My brother was denied his collectors lic.
No written explanation just says denied .

JaegerJason · May 24, 2018

Obviously he's hit the gun limit. SMH

Squaregrouper · May 24, 2018

Maryland.
No need for logic or The Constitution.

Biggfoot44 · May 24, 2018

Maryland, no logic exists.

As mentioned in other threads, does he have previous Regulated purchases ? Presumably if he has W&C Permit, no background issues.

mtbiker · May 24, 2018

I think the collector app can be denied if you don't already own a handgun. But he already has a carry permit and carrying. That's Maryland for ya.

welder516 · May 24, 2018

No background problems , has a TWIC card as well . Been in high security areas at certain places . Now he has to call to find out why , I am not sure if paperwork was complete but it does not say why they denied .

You would think if he had an active permit he would be a shoe-in for the other items .

welder516 · May 24, 2018

I would love for the MSP & Maryland in general get their weenies smacked , it would please me to no end for them to be on the losing side of the courts and an aggressive lawyer or two .

Rab1515 · May 24, 2018

I believe MD lost a lawsuit awhile ago about denying a designated collector who had not yet purchases a regulated firearm. I can not find the reference right now. Now if they can only "find" my wife's application from 3 years ago....

Biggfoot44 · May 24, 2018

According to reports on MDS , this has gone different ways at various points in time . Could have been a matter of which person was handling the applications on a certain day .

I recieved my DCL after the HQL was passed , but before it took effect . Not sure without serious remembering if I would have had 30 day issues since '13 .

Stoveman · May 24, 2018

Is your brother a MD resident and has he purchased regulated firearms previously?

welder516 · May 25, 2018

Yes , this brother happens to be a resident of Maryland and he has bought guns in previous years (one at a time) in this state . My other brother buys in DE. at his place of residence in a 1/2 hour or so .

He will bring the paperwork and letter to me this morning so I can see where the issue is , and maybe read between the lines . They really are nothing less then the Gun Gods with the power to swing in any direction they feel , I love the police and have a great deal of respect for them in general but this handgun section needs to be checked out and dealt with .

ted76 · May 25, 2018

Does he have a common name, that might be shared with a prohibited person?
You could do a Maryland Case search and see if anyone turns up.

swinokur · May 25, 2018

If they thought he was prohibited, how did he get a carry permit?

Something is fishy

ted76 · May 25, 2018

Remember we are talking about MSP, they probably did a much better job of checking out the background of the person in question for the CCP.

danb · May 25, 2018

I do not think that they do a background check for collectors letters. They simply check that you have bought handguns and done a 77r. If the previous 77r was filled out with a different address and one has a common name, its at least plausible that they could not match the DC app with a 77r form. IIRC there is no unique # on the DC letter like social security no. I would have thought that they would have requested more info, not denied it.

71Chevelle427 · May 25, 2018

My guess is that there was something missing, or incorrectly filled out on the application...

If memory serves, it has to be notarized...maybe he forgot to do that?

...maybe his "reason" given for wanting it, was insufficient?

A simple phone call will get the reason for denial.

Nicole @ MSP Licensing Division
410-653-4596

danb · May 25, 2018

71Chevelle427 said:
My guess is that there was something missing, or incorrectly filled out on the application...

If memory serves, it has to be notarized...maybe he forgot to do that?

...maybe his "reason" given for wanting it, was insufficient?

A simple phone call will get the reason for denial.

Nicole @ MSP Licensing Division
410-653-4596

The only reason you need to put on the form is "all lawful purposes."

71Chevelle427 · May 25, 2018

danb said:
The only reason you need to put on the form is "all lawful purposes."

Right.
WE may know that, but who knows what the OP's brother wrote on his app.

All he has to do is call them.

Hopefully, the reason is reported back before we get to the customary 5-6 pages of guesses...

danb · May 25, 2018

71Chevelle427 said:
Right.
WE may know that, but who knows what the OP's brother wrote on his app.

You are saying "Because **** You Frosh" is no longer acceptable since I got mine?

welder516 · May 25, 2018

Okay here is what I gather , there is a place where the Notary dates the form when both parties sign off on the document . Then there is another date on the form up higher on the paper to the right , well notary date don't match the other date . He mailed it a couple days after the notary date so there is a two day difference .

Seems silly but that is what it is .

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