CA Bill Introduces Shall-Issue.

j_h_smith · Feb 20, 2017

rambling_one said:
Now to replicate that in Maryland.

Now lets all stand up, click our heals and say together, "There's no place like Maryland". :sarcasm:

I'm now feeling a little sick to my stomach.

rbird7282 · Feb 20, 2017

j_h_smith said:
It wouldn't surprise me if we aren't one of the last to admit self defense is THE reason for CCW.

Ummm, we already are one of the last ones

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Kharn · Feb 20, 2017

Is CA smart enough to fall on their sword and pass a crappy version of shall-issue to moot Peruta if cert is granted?

rockstarr · Feb 21, 2017

Kharn said:
Is CA smart enough to fall on their sword and pass a crappy version of shall-issue to moot Peruta if cert is granted?

short answer-no and I would seriously cry if these people got shall issue before us.

governor moonbeam would never allow this to happen.

Mike · Feb 24, 2017

243hunter said:
There have been a few that got denied at the board level, and had to appeal to the circuit court, and had their denial overturned. The problem is most of the board reviews come from one person, the sheriff of Cook County, and he basically files an objection to a application because their has been a contact card filled out on them.

Biggfoot44 said:
So to make a reference closer to home for us here :
It sounds as if Cook Co Illinois in practice is similar to City of Philadelphia in practice. State law calls for Shall Issue, but large jurisdiction makes excessive overuse of. " Good Moral Character " language .

243hunter said:
Biggfoot44, you got it. Cook County antigun sheriff didn't get his way when they passed the carry law, so he makes it hard on as many people as he can, to prevent people from getting carry licenses.

Anyone who prevents citizens from lawfully protecting themselves should be put out on a street in Chicago all by themselves, maybe give them a flower for protection?

press1280 · Feb 25, 2017

Kharn said:
Is CA smart enough to fall on their sword and pass a crappy version of shall-issue to moot Peruta if cert is granted?[/QUOTE]

Not just for a cert grant. But if they lose, then 1 of 2 things has to happen-either CA has to change the law or the local sheriffs simply won't be able to deny anyone based on good cause. The original lawsuit targeted the sheriff, who basically has handed everything over to the state in this case. Not sure who SCOTUS would necessarily target either.

Alan3413 · Feb 25, 2017

But one can hope.

Kharn · Feb 25, 2017

press1280 said:
Kharn said:

Is CA smart enough to fall on their sword and pass a crappy version of shall-issue to moot Peruta if cert is granted?

Click to expand...

Not just for a cert grant. But if they lose, then 1 of 2 things has to happen-either CA has to change the law or the local sheriffs simply won't be able to deny anyone based on good cause. The original lawsuit targeted the sheriff, who basically has handed everything over to the state in this case. Not sure who SCOTUS would necessarily target either.

I mean more to acknowledge they aren't likely to win (especially if Kennedy retires this summer and Hardiman or Pryor gets the nod) and attempt to moot the case so NY, MD, etc can get a few more years out of may-issue.

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