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Old March 7th, 2012, 08:12 AM #5501
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Another piece of good news I received late last night is that the State's Attorney's Association which had opposed HB-45 is supposed to now be taking a non opposition stance in light of the Woollard decision. Today I am asking that folks who have not called in or are willing to call in again please call the vice chair of the House Judiciary Committee, Kathleen Dumais. I will post her contact information when I get up to the State House. I had some long talks with her last night and she seems to be in a position where she could be helpful in moving HB-45 along.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 08:12 AM #5502
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^^^^ The sad part is that it is not the "Anti's" who are doing this to us... we are our own enemy here.
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There is an article in The Sun this morning, Page 1 lower left, with the headline reads “Gun ruling likely to be upheld, say legal experts”. Not Bad pretty unbiased. The Sun’s website has the same article with the headline “Lawyers say gun ruling likely to withstand appeal”

But under the article on the web site is a link to the MDSP CCW application. I thought that was odd for the Sunpapers
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Old March 7th, 2012, 08:14 AM #5504
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Lawmakers React To Gun Permit Ruling

http://www.wbal.com/article/87394/78...-Permit-Ruling

good quote from Baltimore City Delegate Curt Anderson

"Anderson does think if the court decision is allowed to stand, it may help reduce crime.

'It would give criminals pause, if they know people would have the right to have guns in their home," Anderson told WBAL News."
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Old March 7th, 2012, 08:15 AM #5505
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I've been debating all day, I guess I'm going to apply just to provide support. If this causes me legal headaches I'm going to be pissed. Can anyone reassure me that the MSI / Smigiel requests are honest and not politically manipulative?

Yes, I can be a little paranoid with some things.

Got my character references lined up, now its just fingerprints, notary and pictures.

Thanks.
No horseplay involved. We're giving you all the info we have:

- We do not know exactly what the MSP will do with your app

- If a stay is granted, the state can pretend Woollard did not happen up to the point someone rules (again) in our favor.

- If they stay is not granted, MSP may sit on the apps and do nothing

- There is a chance you'll get a permit, if the cards line up correctly


If the state requests a stay, we want to make sure they cannot claim "we have only a few dozen applicants, and this shows there is no interest from people in getting permits, so really no harm if you hold this decision." Applications prove intent and interest louder than phone calls. Granted, an application costs more, so we ask people to only do this if they can afford it. There will be other ways to help.

I cannot see how someone will get legal trouble for applying, unless someone is a wanted felon and hands over their prints and address to the state police. And if you think about it - that's probably a good thing. As suck-tastic as it is, we are applying for permission to exercise a fundamental constitutional right. The day that causes us "legal trouble", we will have bigger fish to fry.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 08:16 AM #5506
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Lawmakers React To Gun Permit Ruling

http://www.wbal.com/article/87394/78...-Permit-Ruling

good quote from Baltimore City Delegate Curt Anderson

"Anderson does think if the court decision is allowed to stand, it may help reduce crime.

'It would give criminals pause, if they know people would have the right to have guns in their home," Anderson told WBAL News."
I already had plenty of guns in my home before the ruling
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Somebody needs to tackle Del Smigel et al before they run the ball through the wrong goal.
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Perhaps they are applying a different meeting to "permitted" in Legg's ruling. Could be construed to mean that one doesn't need a permit to exercise a right that already exists.

“A citizen may not be required to offer a `good and substantial reason’ why he should be permitted to exercise his rights, The right’s existence is all the reason he needs.”
Nah....that was part of their discussion since the session started. I've voiced my objections to the inappropriate use of the term and was told I didn't know what I was talking about.
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How can I help? Can I call someone, write someone, I'm a broke kid (I'm 22 my dad still calls me a kid LoL) so I won't have any money to donate to MSI untill friday, is there any thing I can do.....?
Parents will call their kids "kids" even if you are both living in the same nursing home. I'll be calling my toddler, "kid" until I die. It's just our way of showing you who's boss.

There is a ton you can do. We're expecting some fun stuff to come down from the statehouse soon. When it does, get ready to tire out that finger making calls. Better yet, be ready to shine those sneakers and take an afternoon with some more people and go door to door in the statehouse. Think of it as Trick-or-Treating, except your smiling face will be their treat.
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