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Old August 14th, 2019, 07:52 AM #11
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why is that?
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Old August 15th, 2019, 10:00 AM #12
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Probably waiting on clandestine to show up
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Old August 15th, 2019, 11:48 AM #13
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Relatively easy to give an AR trigger the "fluff and buff" treatment, many are hardened, so you can damage one if you do much more than a basic polish, and reducing spring rates for a lighter pull can cause issue too. I pull them out and polish on a block to preserve angles. Even so, a mil-spec tends to have a lot of creep, and feels crappy even with a light pull weight and smooth surface, fresh out of the parts bin mil-spec triggers feel like garbage. Nowadays I look at AR triggers like GLOCK factory sights, they are the first thing to get replaced, most of the time after a mag or two just to make sure I don't have a defect, and being I almost always build from receivers, I just get a decent trigger to start with especially with the prevelence of LPKs that don't include trigger groups. The Geissele/Brownells G2S and GRF are almost unbeatable for a quality trigger, Larue MBTs are even better if you don't really need it for a month or few, all can be found for $150 or less. For match rifles I use the Timney CE triggers, ridiculously light, fast, and can be set up to fit me perfectly.
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I just polished the engagement surfaces enough to get the mill marks smoothed out. I realize there is a hardening depth and didn’t approach that value. The pull is so long the angle of engagement changes on the sear face of the trigger. Some of them work out better than others. I am not over trigger fussy though I do have a couple good triggers in other AR’s. They are more precision oriented rifles. On a carbine a single stage trigger which is reasonably smooth works out for me.
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Schmidt Tool and Machine...military supplier.
I bought one of each. Installed using stock disconnector, springs and pins. Smooth consistent pull. Mortar tested the hammer didnít drop. Tested it with trigger pull gauge..about 4.5 pounds of pull weight.
I used the same combination for upgrading the trigger on my Tippmann M4-22. The proprietary safety on that rifle would not work with LaRue's MBT or Geissele's G2S, but the stock trigger was not to my liking either. The Schmidt Tool and Machine combo offered much smoother and lighter pull.
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Glad to hear someone else tried it. It would be on par price wise with the ALG trigger iff the disco and springs were packaged with it.
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Didn't weigh in tonite, so I won't update upstream .

My pkg from Brownells arrived, specifically my Hammer Drop block . Did 200 dry fires .

Observation #1 - I'll have to remember the terminology if it's Positive Sear Engagement or Negative Sear Engagement , but pulling the trigger causes a lot of further camming back of thr hammer .

Observation #2 - After todays 200 ( 300 total ) , a Iooked down, and the Hammer Pin was backed out . Wiggled around and got it pressed back in by finger, but I'll have to keep an eye on this .
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Not to further derail the thread but I did shoot the carbine yesterday. Some slow and a bit of wuicker a tion type shooting. The trigger and hammer were well worth the money. The trigger was very smooth and had usual long pull of most single stage sets without travel adjustments.
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