Can an employer not allow a firearm in a vehicle?

fabsroman · May 23, 2019

ras_oscar said:
An employer can regulate your behavior at work and while representing the company to the public. They can't regulate your behavior on your time. According to your reasoning they cold fire you because they didn't like the carpet you selected in your living room.

Yeah, you are wrong there too. How did that woman that flipped Trump the bird while out cycling on "her own time" get fired? Granted, it was Virginia, but it is the same concept.

How is it that NFL players get fired over their conduct on "their own time"?

Go ahead and disparage your company on "your own time" and find out what happens if the company finds out.

How can companies fire people for posting stuff on Facebook on "their own time"?

Unless you have an employment agreement that specifically lays out the only things that you can be fired for, which usually has a conduct clause in it anyway, then you can be fired for any reason whatsoever, except one of the protected reasons (e.g., race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age).

fabsroman · May 23, 2019

jrumann59 said:
This is more to do with unemployment insurance premiums that companies pay. Most companies now "lay off" people if they find a "problem" employee.

Yeah, the amount of terrible legal advice in this thread is incredible. If a company is worried about its unemployment contribution rate going up, then it will fire a worker, not lay them off. The rate does not go up if an employee is fired for cause. The rate does go up if an employee is laid off. Laying off an employee is usually better from a lawsuit standpoint, especially if the employee falls in a protected class. Want to get rid of some older employees, do a RIF and include them with some younger employees to make it look like it was random. Less chance of being sued for age discrimination, but your unemployment contribution rate will go up because of the layoff.

danb · May 23, 2019

jrumann59 said:
This is more to do with unemployment insurance premiums that companies pay. Most companies now "lay off" people if they find a "problem" employee.

not this.

fabsroman said:
Yeah, the amount of terrible legal advice in this thread is incredible. If a company is worried about its unemployment contribution rate going up, then it will fire a worker, not lay them off. The rate does not go up if an employee is fired for cause. The rate does go up if an employee is laid off. Laying off an employee is usually better from a lawsuit standpoint, especially if the employee falls in a protected class. Want to get rid of some older employees, do a RIF and include them with some younger employees to make it look like it was random. Less chance of being sued for age discrimination, but your unemployment contribution rate will go up because of the layoff.

^^This. Layoffs many times come with severance, other items, and an agreement not to sue. At most companies, HR has a stack of lawsuits on their desks. Many are frivolous. I have seen a female employee sue a female manager for discrimination. :rolleyes:

But companies settle to avoid legal fees (plus no one wants dirty laundry aired at a public hearing), and many attorneys know this and eke out a decent living. A lot of layoffs are like throwing chum in the water for these attorneys.

lemmdus · May 23, 2019

Their lot, their rules. I once worked at a location where the security guard contracted by the company could not and did not carry firearms. Yet if you went to the company's other location they were armed. This is because the building landlord/owner (foreigner) did not want firearms on the property and it was actually in the lease. So, our guards did not have firearms...only batons and mace. Since this was in a right to carry state, when my co workers would carry and had their guns in the car they parked in the (quite full lot) across the street.

Its up to the property owner. On my property its Constitutional carry on my current employer's property, only the guards.

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