Baltimore County looks to regulate gun shows and gun shops

Don H · Nov 25, 2019

Interesting article on Baltimore County's move to regulate gun dealers and gun shows by requiring security measures to prevent theft. It will be interesting to see how far they will go with this.

https://patch.com/maryland/perryhall/s/gxd6f/gun-safety-bill-help-reduce-theft-number-guns-streets?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_term=police+%26+fire&utm_campaign=autopost&utm_content=perryhall&fbclid=IwAR3IP7IWGX9feyXJSg7xxp6jd-H-PUW3osgC27KrTvhdXiG1wE5yxW_woGo

John from MD · Nov 25, 2019

I can see this going state wide as the demorats force onerous expenses on small businesses to force them out of business. :mad54:

XCheckR · Nov 25, 2019

This makes me fume....

How many guns are stolen from gun shops....????

Also, do they levy these requirements on drugstores?? Yiu know for all the drugs on the streets?

Doctor_M · Nov 25, 2019

This is where Johnny O's priorities are.... ignoring problems that exist in favor of chasing wild geese that conform to his liberal view of the world. Way to go, Johnny.

pbharvey · Nov 25, 2019

That’s being discussed on WBAL right now.
Freestate was interviewed.

BeoBill · Nov 25, 2019

John from MD said:
I can see this going state wide as the demorats force onerous expenses on small businesses to force them out of business.

Maybe another bright idea for the MGA to inflict on the peasants.

danb · Nov 25, 2019

The article suggests that this was with the help of Baltimore County FFLs.The more recent ones burglars are crashing cars into buildings. I really dont know how you stop this, except with a 2 live security guards, one doing overwatch with a 50bmg.

Bikebreath · Nov 25, 2019

Of Baltimore County guns shops raided, what were the rap sheets of the perps, and how many of the perps were released early on the last sentence?

It's BULLSH*T!

MaxVO2 · Nov 25, 2019

danb said:
The article suggests that this was with the help of Baltimore County FFLs.The more recent ones burglars are crashing cars into buildings. I really dont know how you stop this, except with a 2 live security guards, one doing overwatch with a 50bmg.

****You can't be doing overwatch with a .50 BMG in Baltimore! Noise regulations!!!!! :facepalm:

pbharvey · Nov 25, 2019

Bikebreath said:
Of Baltimore County guns shops raided, what were the rap sheets of the perps, and how many of the perps were released early on the last sentence?

It's BULLSH*T!

Exactly.
They want to lock up the guns instead of the burglars.

Don H · Nov 25, 2019

I don't know what type of security they would expect at gun shows but I could see it becoming so expensive shows would go elsewhere.

1time · Nov 25, 2019

Bikebreath said:
Of Baltimore County guns shops raided, what were the rap sheets of the perps, and how many of the perps were released early on the last sentence?

It's BULLSH*T!

You have to take some kind of responsibility as a private dealer. When you are repeatedly targeted, and can’t bother with an alarm system, video, or really any means of hardening eventually something will force your hand.

pbharvey · Nov 25, 2019

1time said:
You have to take some kind of responsibility as a private dealer. When you are repeatedly targeted, and can’t bother with an alarm system, video, or really any means of hardening eventually something will force your hand.

How about Harry Homeowner with a collection?
How about a gunsmith?
How about a designated collector?
How about C&R?

Does Walmart and Dicks need to secure all their glass doors and windows? How about the skylights?

This will never end.

danb · Nov 25, 2019

MaxVO2 said:
****You can't be doing overwatch with a .50 BMG in Baltimore! Noise regulations!!!!!

There is an app for that: https://barrett.net/accessories/suppressors/qdlsuppressor

Applehd · Nov 25, 2019

1time said:
You have to take some kind of responsibility as a private dealer. When you are repeatedly targeted, and can’t bother with an alarm system, video, or really any means of hardening eventually something will force your hand.

Not sure where you are coming from with this statement... what of the stores that take the steps(not the ones mandated by the .gov) to fortify their business to guard against intruders.
One of the provisions is to install bollards in the parking lot so someone cannot drive a car through the storefront. You lease the store and the store owner says bollards are a no-go...
You must have roll up doors mounted to the outside of the store covering the windows and door. Store owner says..."not on my building..."
Where does that leave the store owner... shit out of luck... that's where... comply or else... This is nothing more than that ******* Johnny O' implementing his grand utopian plan to rid the county of gun dealers...
Sounds like you are all in with his plan...

pbharvey · Nov 25, 2019

Applehd said:
Not sure where you are coming from with this statement... what of the stores that take the steps(not the ones mandated by the .gov) to fortify their business to guard against intruders.
One of the provisions is to install bollards in the parking lot so someone cannot drive a car through the storefront. You lease the store and the store owner says bollards are a no-go...
You must have roll up doors mounted to the outside of the store covering the windows and door. Store owner says..."not on my building..."
Where does that leave the store owner... shit out of luck... that's where... comply or else... This is nothing more than that ******* Johnny O' implementing his grand utopian plan to rid the county of gun dealers...
Sounds like you are all in with his plan...

On the radio interview Freestate said they were looking at $30,000 to meet the proposed requirements.

danb · Nov 25, 2019

One wonders how much of this is being driven by insurance companies behind the scenes.

John from MD · Nov 25, 2019

Bye Bye Freestate. :sad20:

Bertfish · Nov 25, 2019

danb said:
One wonders how much of this is being driven by insurance companies behind the scenes.

You're giving Johnny O too much credit. The insurance company would as least look at the statistics before hosing you. O doesn't give a damn.

1time · Nov 25, 2019

It's sounds awesome that you think this is a big conspiracy to rid the county of gun shops but this started long before Johnny O was county exec. The same Johnny O that voted against the 2013 madness, by the way.

I am not telling you how I think it should be or that I agree with it. What I am telling you is what happened.

The first time a bunch of guns end up on the street the conversation is "Do you believe that such and such doesn't have an alarm or cameras". The second time is "Man, I really thought such and such would have gotten an alarm or some cameras". The third time its more like " What the F, they just don't give a shit if their guns are stolen". The eventually someone bitches enough to lawmakers and a law is made. Once you get lawmakers on board with "there needs to be a law" you don't know where its going to go and it probably won't end well.

I imagine it's pretty frustrating to investigate a crime without knowing when something happened, any clues as to what they looked like and there is a huge delay in figuring out what the stolen property you are looking for, looks like.

Again, I am not talking what if; that is what happened. I know the person doing the complaining and he is not politically connected in any way, just frustrated.

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