Bump Fire / Slide Fire - Opinions?

earthprime · Nov 17, 2014

I'm interested in Bump Fire stocks and am considering purchasing one for my M&P15-22 and AR-15. Does anyone own one and can give their review? Videos I've seen show the technique working well for the 15-22 with barrel mods, but the weapon seems almost uncontrollable with AR-15s. It seems that you wouldn't use this with an AR that you want to keep, as you run the risk of melting the barrel or breaking the inner components. Thoughts?

canonian · Nov 17, 2014

I'm getting ready to build a dedicated bump fire AR. I shot one and it was every bit as controllable as an AR 5.56 in full auto. Lean into it, expect some muzzle rise. Short to medium bursts are very manageable and fun, say in bursts of 3-8 rounds. Full mag dumps are possible with some concentrated effort but you won't be shooting MOA with a 20-30 round mag dump.

This was my limited experience with one, however I feel with practice I could certainly do better.

Never got a chance to use it on a rimfire but I'd bet it would be very well controlled.

BTW check out the "bumpski" for a nice albeit expensive aluminum version for an AR/AK.

Balzer94 · Nov 17, 2014

I have one that i bought for my ar15. Works great. Extremely controlable. I did a 100round mag dump on my old barrel and im pretty sure it is ruined. But all of the other components are fine

krucam · Nov 17, 2014

Isn't the stock recoil dependent? If so, is a 15-22 (I have one as well) going to cut it?

canonian · Nov 17, 2014

krucam said:
Isn't the stock recoil dependent? If so, is a 15-22 (I have one as well) going to cut it?

Yes it will:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVho4jdk_5I

R1Peacock · Nov 17, 2014

Take a look at the M&P 15-22 forum. For best results you will need to add a reverse muzzle break and a light quality trigger. You are looking at $500+ in parts between the stock, trigger and muzzle break.

For that money I would buy another toy - I bought my son a H&K MP7 Gas Blowback Airsoft Gun. It is gas blowback so it has the look, weight and feel of the real thing and is cheaper to shoot.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-15-22/

http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/Airsoft-KWA-MP7-Gun-p/95005.htm

RP

Fiddlersgreen · Nov 17, 2014

I have one for my ar15 but I don't use it. Burns to much ammo and isn't accurate enough for my twist. I guess it really depends what you want though.

hairba111 · Nov 17, 2014

I've had my Saiga .308 "Bumpskied" for over a year now. If you don't reload, it can get expensive. As far as control, it's like firing an M14 full auto. If you don't know how to control it, you're just wasting ammo. Some ranges don't allow bump firing, so check with your club's rules before you get chased off the property. It's fun as hell otherwise.

earthprime · Nov 18, 2014

Is there a difference between the 'Bump Fire' and 'Slide Fire' brands? Perception is everything - Bump Fire looks like a fly-by-night setup, though both brands may have the exact same quality for the AR platform.

BradMacc82 · Nov 18, 2014

Why not save a few hundred bucks and learn how to bump from the shoulder with a standard stock/rifle?

I know, it's not an easy method to master - but it's definitely cheaper, and once you've gotten it down, it's just as fast.

HappyCamper · Nov 18, 2014

BradMacc82 said:
Why not save a few hundred bucks and learn how to bump from the shoulder with a standard stock/rifle?

I know, it's not an easy method to master - but it's definitely cheaper, and once you've gotten it down, it's just as fast.

As well as from a bipod, like on an RPK. No special stock is needed, just get the technique down and it's not difficult.

Diamonddoug · Nov 18, 2014

Put my bump stock on a over the counter AR work flawlessly. just need to get use to the fact you need to keep pulling back with your forward hand

BradMacc82 · Nov 18, 2014

HappyCamper said:
As well as from a bipod, like on an RPK. No special stock is needed, just get the technique down and it's not difficult.

That's one I haven't tried yet, thanks for planting that seed. :thumbsup:

IMBLITZVT · Nov 18, 2014

earthprime said:
I'm interested in Bump Fire stocks and am considering purchasing one for my M&P15-22 and AR-15. Does anyone own one and can give their review? Videos I've seen show the technique working well for the 15-22 with barrel mods, but the weapon seems almost uncontrollable with AR-15s. It seems that you wouldn't use this with an AR that you want to keep, as you run the risk of melting the barrel or breaking the inner components. Thoughts?

I have shot several, several times. AR15s are controllable. A lot depends on how good you are. I have MGs, so I can handle fast fire and control muzzle climbs...etc. I was shooting 30rd mags in 3-5rd bursts at 100 yards and keeping them all in the berm with little trouble. I shoot at the AGC where this is required. Its not a problem for me. Others tend to drop a shot low or high every so often. However its very doable if you have the ability. I would not worry about melting the barrel. The M16 uses the same barrel and you can watch people dumb 100rd CMags in them without melting it. Yeah your barrel will get pretty hot and will wear faster... but no need to dumb 100rds at one time either. Heavy barrels will help to, the pencil barrels do get hot a bit quick. However look up the melting temp for steel... I don't know you need to worry about getting your barrel 1000+ degrees. All internals cycle much faster on M16s with about the same level of breakage as semi autos. That is non-factor.

canonian said:
... I shot one and it was every bit as controllable as an AR 5.56 in full auto.

Na... not really. I agree with the rest but sorry, no where near as controllable as a FA M16. That said, its good enough for most uses. I have fired a M16 and a Bump stock at the same time and you notice a considerable difference if you know what you are doing.

krucam said:
Isn't the stock recoil dependent? If so, is a 15-22 (I have one as well) going to cut it?

The stock is not recoil dependent. It slides either way. However if you don't get enough recoil the gun will not push back enough to reset the trigger. You could counter by pulling forward lighter on the hand guard. However 22LR is fairly light round. So finding this sweet spot of the correct amount of forward pull to keep the system cycling may be hard. I have not tried it in 22LR.

BradMacc82 said:
Why not save a few hundred bucks and learn how to bump from the shoulder with a standard stock/rifle?

I know, it's not an easy method to master - but it's definitely cheaper, and once you've gotten it down, it's just as fast.

The stocks have gotten pretty cheap. The stock will provide much better results and accuracy. I have done plenty of both and the stocks are worth the money.

Diamonddoug said:
Put my bump stock on a over the counter AR work flawlessly. just need to get use to the fact you need to keep pulling back with your forward hand

No its pushing forward with your forward hand. The recoil pushes the system back and should allow the trigger to reset. You apply the forward pressure to pull the receiver forward and push the trigger into your finger again, which then fires it again. You basically become a return spring on the system.

Schwabe · Nov 18, 2014

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=160591&page=3

Here are two videos i did with my bumpfire setup. Very controllable, a little odd at first firing by pulling the gun forward but absolutely controllable.

earthprime · Nov 18, 2014

Schwabe said:
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=160591&page=3

Here are two videos i did with my bumpfire setup. Very controllable, a little odd at first firing by pulling the gun forward but absolutely controllable.

Schwabe - Great video! The DPMS Oracle is the next AR I'm looking to buy and I love your setup. Is that a pre-ban lightweight Oracle? The only HBAR 5.56 version I can find has the bullet button.

Schwabe · Nov 18, 2014

Yes, was one of the last purchases before the ban hammer, paid less than $700 shipped for it ... just bought a Chiappa .22lr upper for it but did not have a chance to test it yet

Diamonddoug · Nov 18, 2014

"No its pushing forward with your forward hand. The recoil pushes the system back and should allow the trigger to reset. You apply the forward pressure to pull the receiver forward and push the trigger into your finger again, which then fires it again. You basically become a return spring on the system."

Sorry You are correct got my tongue wrapped around my eye tooth and I couldn't see what I was saying

Fiddlersgreen · Nov 18, 2014

If you really want one for an ar-15 pm me. I have one I could be convinced to sell

GoGoGadget · Nov 18, 2014

I got one working just fine with a 15-22 by simply doing the "15 min trigger job".

http://www.sargenthome.com/15_Minute_AR_Trigger_Job.htm

I does get pretty dirty and starts jamming after a couple mags, though. A quick run-through with the bore snake and a wipe down of the chamber takes care of that and makes it good for a couple more mags.

Bump Fire / Slide Fire - Opinions?

The #1 community for Gun Owners of the Northeast

Member Benefits:

Member

Active Member

Active Member

Ultimate Member

Active Member

Active Member

IYACYAS

XGMG2

Member

Ultimate Member

~

Active Member

Ultimate Member

Ultimate Member

Ultimate Member

Member

Ultimate Member

Active Member

IYACYAS

Deplorable Member

Users who are viewing this thread

Log in

Forum statistics