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    Biggfoot44

    Biggfoot44

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    Aug 2, 2009
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    OK , found a few possibilities that would be correct for early 1870's , of British ctgs .

    .380 Revolver & .380 Short , both introduced 1872 ( predating the similar .38 Short Colt by 3yrs ). Case lengths of .60 and .70 respectively , .375 heeled bullet .

    .360 no5 Revolver . Case length 1.05 , .366 bullet . My initial source quotes " 1870's " introduction .
     
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    ww2

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    Nov 21, 2014
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    Max case length minus rim for this cylinder to the throat is .780 (measured). The cylinder features a throat so it doesn't fire a heeled bullet.
     
    Biggfoot44

    Biggfoot44

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    Case length fits for .38 Short Colt .

    If it has a throat for inside bullets , then it would imply a comparitively later mfg, later in 1800's .
     
    CodeWarrior1241

    CodeWarrior1241

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    Pinfire.... That's out of control. Couldn't believe such a thing ever existed. I read the wiki page, learned something new!

    Sent from my SHIELD Tablet K1 using Tapatalk
     
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    K-43

    K-43

    West of Morning Side
    Oct 20, 2010
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    Is there even a proof mark on it anywhere? At least that would put it in a specific country for proofing.
    It is odd, but I'd agree probably one of a small run from a Belgian mom and pop company post 1870. There were hundreds if not thousands of them cranking out ladies muff guns and pocket pistols. The barrel may have been left over from muzzleloading pistols they produced.
    Melnic, it's too early for an ACP of any kind.
    The gate is interesting, like they were trying to get around the Colt patents.
     
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    ww2

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    Nov 21, 2014
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    No marks on it anywhere, even under the grips. Good idea about the barrel being repurposed surplus. There is a small diameter recess in the back of the chamber for a small rim to sit in. What case could that be? It is centerfire, but a 38 short rim is much too wide and thick. There is very little space between the frame and back of the cylinder.
     

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    Biggfoot44

    Biggfoot44

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    When you saw " .38 Short " , do you mean a .38 S&W , or an actual .38 Colt Short ?

    ( Two different ctgs . The Colt has same rim size as .38spl , .38 S&W is larger .)
     
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