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engineerbrian · Jul 11, 2020

rsideout said:
Here's something that you don't see very of often. A transferrable Mauser Model 712 machine pistol. 7.63 mm. Basically a select fire C96 broomhandle Mauser. Dealer samples are not too hard to find, but transferrables are VERY rare. This transferred to me as a C&R. The stock/holster is an original, stamped by the Mauser factory. It uses 10 & 20 rd mags. Also includes all of the original leather straps. Fires at about 900 RPM. The gun has a very interesting history. It was taken from a Mexican national hit man in 1961 by a Texas Sheriff. That Sheriff arrested the hit man and later registered the gun into the NFA Registry with the help of a local ATF Agent. I have the signed and notarized affidavits from both of them on the provenance of the gun.

Thats awesome. Is ammo commonly Available for that caliber?

rouchna · Jul 11, 2020

rsideout said:
Here's something that you don't see very of often. A transferrable Mauser Model 712 machine pistol. 7.63 mm. Basically a select fire C96 broomhandle Mauser. Dealer samples are not too hard to find, but transferrables are VERY rare. This transferred to me as a C&R. The stock/holster is an original, stamped by the Mauser factory. It uses 10 & 20 rd mags. Also includes all of the original leather straps. Fires at about 900 RPM. The gun has a very interesting history. It was taken from a Mexican national hit man in 1961 by a Texas Sheriff. That Sheriff arrested the hit man and later registered the gun into the NFA Registry with the help of a local ATF Agent. I have the signed and notarized affidavits from both of them on the provenance of the gun.

That is just awesome :party29:

rsideout · Jul 11, 2020

engineerbrian said:
Thats awesome. Is ammo commonly Available for that caliber?

I didn't have any problem finding current 7.63x25mm Mauser ammo. Plus I had some from when I bought a C96 about 30 years ago.

It is basically the same size as 7.62x25mm Tokarev. But the Tok ammo is hotter and not to used in the Mauser. I have a stock of both, so I'll be very careful to keep those 2 calibers separate.

teratos · Jul 11, 2020

rsideout said:
Here's something that you don't see very of often. A transferrable Mauser Model 712 machine pistol. 7.63 mm. Basically a select fire C96 broomhandle Mauser. Dealer samples are not too hard to find, but transferrables are VERY rare. This transferred to me as a C&R. The stock/holster is an original, stamped by the Mauser factory. It uses 10 & 20 rd mags. Also includes all of the original leather straps. Fires at about 900 RPM. The gun has a very interesting history. It was taken from a Mexican national hit man in 1961 by a Texas Sheriff. That Sheriff arrested the hit man and later registered the gun into the NFA Registry with the help of a local ATF Agent. I have the signed and notarized affidavits from both of them on the provenance of the gun.

That is a beautiful gun with a cool history.

rsideout · Jul 11, 2020

Jed195 said:
That is awesome! The story alone is badass. Watched a guy shoot one of those at a MG demo at a gun show in Havre De Grace years ago. He had a jam and in clearing the jam, got the web of his left hand stuck in the action. Bled all over the range!

calicojack said:
More info on the Mauser Model 712 https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/71/3515/mauser-model-712-1932-schnellfeuer-machine-pistol

Bob A said:
Beyond cool, this trends toward Absolute Zero!

engineerbrian said:
Thats awesome. Is ammo commonly Available for that caliber?

rouchna said:
That is just awesome

teratos said:
That is a beautiful gun with a cool history.

Thanks! I ran a few mags through it in the bullet trap today. It runs fast and puts out some nice little fireballs! I'm looking forward to trying it out on the range soon!

rsideout · Jul 14, 2020

rsideout said:
Thanks! I ran a few mags through it in the bullet trap today. It runs fast and puts out some nice little fireballs! I'm looking forward to trying it out on the range soon!

Update, here is a short video from our MD TCA shoot this past weekend.

teratos · Jul 14, 2020

Badass!!!!

And very practical!!

ar15dave · Jul 16, 2020

That is awesome. Nice find!

lilgibby · Jul 22, 2020

Need a quick answer. If I buy a 10.3 upper with a surefire 3 prong pistol if I wanted to sbr it would I meet the 29 in oal length requirements? Or is 10.5 really the only way? If I added the A5 system would that make a difference? Thanks.

calicojack · Jul 22, 2020

lilgibby said:
Need a quick answer. If I buy a 10.3 upper with a surefire 3 prong pistol if I wanted to sbr it would I meet the 29 in oal length requirements? Or is 10.5 really the only way? If I added the A5 system would that make a difference? Thanks.

If you get the Magpul ACL-S stock that has a 14.9" LOP, you might be able to eek out 29" for an OAL.

SkiPatrolDude · Jul 29, 2020

lilgibby said:
Need a quick answer. If I buy a 10.3 upper with a surefire 3 prong pistol if I wanted to sbr it would I meet the 29 in oal length requirements? Or is 10.5 really the only way? If I added the A5 system would that make a difference? Thanks.

I have a DDM4V7P that I just SBR'd. It's a 10.3

I reach 29.25 with standard buffer and unpinned flash hider when i use the B5 Bravo stock.

All of my other carbine stocks fall a quarter inch short. The B5 detent is a hair further back which brings out the length of pull just enough. Or you can pin and weld and you are safely past 29 OAL with any stock.

04RWon · Jul 29, 2020

SkiPatrolDude said:
I have a DDM4V7P that I just SBR'd. It's a 10.3

I reach 29.25 with standard buffer and unpinned flash hider when i use the B5 Bravo stock.

All of my other carbine stocks fall a quarter inch short. The B5 detent is a hair further back which brings out the length of pull just enough. Or you can pin and weld and you are safely past 29 OAL with any stock.

So let me get this straight. For an sbr, you measure with the stock, for a pistol the brsce doesnt count.

Mike OTDP · Jul 30, 2020

Check cashed 26 June 2019
Form 4 signed 26 June 2020
Form 4 at dealer (and picked up) 30 July 2020

ST19AG_WGreymon · Jul 30, 2020

Mike OTDP said:
Check cashed 26 June 2019
Form 4 signed 26 June 2020
Form 4 at dealer (and picked up) 30 July 2020

I mis-read that. You had me excited for my form that went pending two months ago. :lol:

rsideout · Jul 31, 2020

Another stamp arrived today! I've been wanting one of these for years. M3 Grease Gun made by the Guidelamp division of General Motors. Just something about that slow "chugging" rate of fire. About 400 RPM. This one was made in 1943/1944.

engineerbrian · Jul 31, 2020

Wow, thats awesome! I didn't realize they were only 400 rpm

rsideout · Jul 31, 2020

engineerbrian said:
Wow, thats awesome! I didn't realize they were only 400 rpm

I've heard 350 to 450. It probably varies based on the ammo, individual gun function, and cleaning.

bbrown · Jul 31, 2020

rsideout said:
Another stamp arrived today! I've been wanting one of these for years. M3 Grease Gun made by the Guidelamp division of General Motors. Just something about that slow "chugging" rate of fire. About 400 RPM. This one was made in 1943/1944.

So, you gonna bring that baby out on Sunday?????

rsideout · Jul 31, 2020

bbrown said:
So, you gonna bring that baby out on Sunday?????

Not sure yet. I've got 3 things on the calendar right now for Sunday afternoon. But if I do, it will be early and quick.

Oldcarjunkie · Jul 31, 2020

rsideout said:
Another stamp arrived today! I've been wanting one of these for years. M3 Grease Gun made by the Guidelamp division of General Motors. Just something about that slow "chugging" rate of fire. About 400 RPM. This one was made in 1943/1944.

Very cool man

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