yes another HBAR question

frogman68 · Dec 16, 2016

bought this barrel it was listed as a HBAR but it isn't marked. Searched but no real answers but did see to post a pic.

thumbert · Dec 16, 2016

frogman68 said:
bought this barrel it was listed as a HBAR but it isn't marked. Searched but no real answers but did see to post a pic.

27 Piece Capital Alphabet Letters A-Z Punch Set For Stamping Metal 1/8 Inch 3mm (1 Set) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002ZJ520C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_HnkvybRWP5X44

dontpanic · Dec 16, 2016

frogman68 said:
bought this barrel it was listed as a HBAR but it isn't marked. Searched but no real answers but did see to post a pic.

If the manufacturer described it as a heavy barrel, it is OK. Does not need to be marked.

If it makes you feel better, you could stamp it or keep a copy of the manufacturer's description. But not necessary.

c4snipar · Dec 16, 2016

So sad, this silly law in this free country they say.

WeaponsCollector · Dec 16, 2016

thumbert said:
27 Piece Capital Alphabet Letters A-Z Punch Set For Stamping Metal 1/8 Inch 3mm (1 Set) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002ZJ520C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_HnkvybRWP5X44

I bet that's also handy for stamping "USA" on certain things as well, if it even really matters.

mopar92 · Dec 17, 2016

frogman68 said:
bought this barrel it was listed as a HBAR but it isn't marked. Searched but no real answers but did see to post a pic.

My recommendation is always to print out a copy of the manufacturers advertising designating it as HBAR and/or to screenshot the product description to your email so there is always a copy available if the Internet is nearby.

Can save a lot of aggravation and time.

frogman68 · Dec 17, 2016

Rifle is a gift for our son , Not being marked HBAR will make me buy another barrel that is marked. If it was for me I would use it but if he moves back to MD he might have a issue

ezracer · Dec 17, 2016

thumbert said:
27 Piece Capital Alphabet Letters A-Z Punch Set For Stamping Metal 1/8 Inch 3mm (1 Set) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002ZJ520C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_HnkvybRWP5X44

It may be a little difficult to use those punches on a round, hardened steel rifle barrel, if the barrel is 4140 steel.... and especially the harder 4150 steel.
A stainless steel barrel should not be a problem!!

lee2 · Dec 17, 2016

mopar92 said:
My recommendation is always to print out a copy of the manufacturers advertising designating it as HBAR and/or to screenshot the product description to your email so there is always a copy available if the Internet is nearby.

Can save a lot of aggravation and time.

Why would this be necessary?

mopar92 · Dec 17, 2016

lee2 said:
Why would this be necessary?

Traffic stop, useage in a defensive situation, useage in an accident (dispatching a wounded aminal) or any of the thousands of reasons you might need to prove your rifle is in a non banned configuration.

lee2 · Dec 17, 2016

mopar92 said:
Traffic stop, useage in a defensive situation, useage in an accident (dispatching a wounded aminal) or any of the thousands of reasons you might need to prove your rifle is in a non banned configuration.

this isnt an nfa item.
secure your weapon when traveling.
no need to carry papers with you.
and no requirement either.

mopar92 · Dec 17, 2016

lee2 said:
this isnt an nfa item.
secure your weapon when traveling.
no need to carry papers with you.
and no requirement either.

Which is why I said recommend not required.

frogman68 · Dec 17, 2016

lee2 said:
Why would this be necessary?

Since it isnt marked , any reason a LEO sees it , it can be confiscated till I prove its a HBAR . Since it is for our son I rather him not to deal with it if he comes back to MD

Minuteman · Dec 17, 2016

mopar92 said:
Traffic stop, useage in a defensive situation, useage in an accident (dispatching a wounded aminal) or any of the thousands of reasons you might need to prove your rifle is in a non banned configuration.

This exactly.

Because of this *stupid* 'banned list', how would one (or must they) prove that a non-heavy barrel AR was purchased before the ban went into effect? Or that a particular rifle is in fact an HBAR? What a mess, and we all know that the thickness of the barrel of a firearm, its features, or even its rate of fire have nothing what so ever to do with it's 'danger' to society.

This FSA 2013 (SB281), and the politicians behind it are doing nothing more than infringing on our rights. This law does zero to make any of us safer.

BUFF7MM · Dec 17, 2016

frogman68 said:
Since it isnt marked , any reason a LEO sees it , it can be confiscated till I prove its a HBAR . Since it is for our son I rather him not to deal with it if he comes back to MD

So in that aspect by that thinking if a LEO sees my pre '13 AR he's going to automatically confiscate it since its sporting an M4 profile barrel?
I think there's WAY to much overthinking when it comes to this subject.
I know everybody wants to err on the side of caution but if we as people thought this much into everyday life we'd never leave the house.

lee2 · Dec 17, 2016

frogman68 said:
Since it isnt marked , any reason a LEO sees it , it can be confiscated till I prove its a HBAR . Since it is for our son I rather him not to deal with it if he comes back to MD

i cant remember being questioned by a leo or even a range office if my ar was in an hbar configuration.

what about .300 blackout. do you need to prove to an leo thats its ok to have it in non hbar config? may is see your papers please?

outrider58 · Dec 17, 2016

Buff7mm said:
So in that aspect by that thinking if a LEO sees my pre '13 AR he's going to automatically confiscate it since its sporting an M4 profile barrel?
I think there's WAY to much overthinking when it comes to this subject.
I know everybody wants to err on the side of caution but if we as people thought this much into everyday life we'd never leave the house.

+1

frogman68 · Dec 17, 2016

Buff7mm said:
So in that aspect by that thinking if a LEO sees my pre '13 AR he's going to automatically confiscate it since its sporting an M4 profile barrel?
I think there's WAY to much overthinking when it comes to this subject.
I know everybody wants to err on the side of caution but if we as people thought this much into everyday life we'd never leave the house.

I do think some troopers would confiscate a pre ban weapon and make you prove otherwise . Maybe I have BGOS but rather be cautious than broke from proving otherwise

2nd=Good+Substantial · Dec 17, 2016

mopar92 said:
My recommendation is always to print out a copy of the manufacturers advertising designating it as HBAR and/or to screenshot the product description to your email so there is always a copy available if the Internet is nearby.

Can save a lot of aggravation and time.

I agree completely. We shouldn't have to but we live in a f'd up state.

Pinecone · Dec 17, 2016

Minuteman said:
This exactly.

Because of this *stupid* 'banned list', how would one (or must they) prove that a non-heavy barrel AR was purchased before the ban went into effect? Or that a particular rifle is in fact an HBAR? What a mess, and we all know that the thickness of the barrel of a firearm, its features, or even its rate of fire have nothing what so ever to do with it's 'danger' to society.

This FSA 2013 (SB281), and the politicians behind it are doing nothing more than infringing on our rights. This law does zero to make any of us safer.

It may be hard to prove it was purchased pre-ban, unless the serial number comes back that it was manufactured in 2014 or later.

yes another HBAR question

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