US Virgin Islands to Confiscate Firearms Ahead of Irma

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    traveller

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    Why spell out guns and incendiary materials if the only intent was to give the guard the equipment necessary to carry out the mission. ? Wouldnt it make more sense to give them the power to seize heavy construction equipment, barges, tugs etc. ?

    Sure sounds like he tried to use the storm as cover for a wholesale gun Roundup. USVI, it's like Baltimore, just not as safe.
     
    Jim12

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    traveller said:
    Why spell out guns and incendiary materials if the only intent was to give the guard the equipment necessary to carry out the mission. ? Wouldnt it make more sense to give them the power to seize heavy construction equipment, barges, tugs etc. ?

    Sure sounds like he tried to use the storm as cover for a wholesale gun Roundup. USVI, it's like Baltimore, just not as safe.
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    Just conditioning the masses for when the time is right. Nothing to see here, we're just looking out for you. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. Period.
     
    Rab1515

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    If the order is so unclear and miss understood en mass, why is still in effect? Considering the order is good still canceled, why doesn't he rewrite it?
     
    Jim12

    Jim12

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    He likes it just the way it is. And doesn't want to admit what it really means by changing it.
     
    Pinecone

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    whistlersmother said:
    and why would that not include all civilian firearms? can't have those pesky civilians running around in a disorderly way with firearms.

    besides, won't anything that lends itself to not contributing to order be confiscated so that order may be maintained?

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    Read the actual words.

    It allows them to confiscate, if they need them. Not to keep them out of the hands of the citizens.
     
    Jim12

    Jim12

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    Pinecone said:
    Read the actual words.

    It allows them to confiscate, if they need them. Not to keep them out of the hands of the citizens.
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    Do you know any gun owners on MDS or elsewhere who don't "need" more guns?

    "You don't need that AR-15 or high capacity magazines" is what the anti's say all the time, isn't it?
     
    whistlersmother

    whistlersmother

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    Pinecone said:
    Read the actual words.

    It allows them to confiscate, if they need them. Not to keep them out of the hands of the citizens.
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    I did read the words. It says "seize" what is needed to maintain control. I read that to mean the seizure of privately arms so that the NG can maintain control.

    Perhaps the semantics are lost in the purposely ambiguous wording.

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    iH8DemLibz

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    Apr 1, 2013
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    USVI now under a 24 hour curfew.

    Not being reported as to why, but massive amounts of crime seems like the logical reason.

    Difficult to see how folks take on recovery efforts when they can't leave their homes.

    We joke about SHTF scenarios. Those folks are actually living it.
     
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    rascal

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    Feb 15, 2013
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    Pinecone said:
    Read the actual words.

    It allows them to confiscate, if they need them. Not to keep them out of the hands of the citizens.
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    It absolutely allows removal of firearms and ammunition from civilians if the national guard commander feels it is a mission need that civilians not be allowed to possess in order to keep public order.

    If you read the <b>full</I?> order it is clear the context is emergency pacification. And nowhere t does not say: "'need' of equipment and supply if the national guard does not have enough." Need can simply be -- as is very common in energy control and pacification policies worldwide -- need to make sure civilians do not have access to alcohol, guns, ect.

    Existence of such draft orders is precisely why some states have passed specific laws outlawing seizure of legal firearms for pacification in an emergency.
     
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