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Join Date: Oct 2020
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I'll also agree with the ACB thing being awesome feeling to beat them at their home field, so to speak. That being said, I think it's sad that the perspective of her has to revolve around identity politics. I've always hated it but grow increasingly more resentful and am beginning to denounce anything that remotely sounds like identity politics. Though every once in a while conservatives can get a victory in that realm, they will not win that war. The perception and vast majority of the media apparatus will make it impossible. It's a stupid fight and I think nobody wins in the end but we'll all get torn down trying. I disagree that we need more victories of the sort. I think if you play that stupid game, you will win a stupid prize. The conversations need to stop being framed around identity politics. The tribalism is so divisive and needs a clear, rational dismantling of why it is crap. Blowing up and getting angry over it just re-enforces their ideas that you're an "ist". Have you ever been convinced of anything by someone yelling at you and calling you dumb? I think that's often how the conservative argument sounds against identity politics... emotionally driven calling the other side dumb. Even if my arguments have been dumb, a random person will not usually be able to convince me of that by getting emotional and telling me I'm dumb. Some close friends or someone explaining rationally why my opinion is stupid might get somewhere. I also think that Trump's bombastic nature made him a hero to those who agreed with most of his ideas. The other side of that is that it made him easy to caricature to those who do not. I hate that the denouncing of white supremacy was as much of a stink as it was and the full quote has him denounce it. However, he should have calmly dismantled it and repeated the exact sentence he said prior to the circulated clip. He easily could have thrown it in their face and called them fake news if he did not play into the caricature of himself. With that example, I really think that Trump is a liability to anyone who believes in conservative policy. Whether you like him or not, he is too polarizing and bombastic of a figure. Though it was already on the rise, he has accelerated the movement of the mainstream to the left and made the extremes way more extreme and empowered. They even voted for and rallied behind an old white guy to spite the orange one. Conservativism needs to go back to being principled and not reactionary/spiteful of the other side. Selling personal responsibility is harder than selling handouts but it does resonate more than the MSM would have you believe. I'd evidence that with the rise of conservative podcasts/alternate media over the last few years. The rise of Jordan Peterson clearly demonstrates a need and resonance with that message. Those things are re-assuring. I think conservatives need to do a better job explaining their positions rather than just shutting down the other side. The left is good at proposing solutions to things like the rising costs in healthcare. Their solution is obvious where the conservative stance is much more complicated and usually sounds like the boot straps argument.. From an optics perspective, it looks like conservatives don't give a crap or even acknowledge there is a problem. They just come off looking like budget hawks who don't want to pay for the downtrodden's healthcare. The MSM has demonized caring about the budget as being greedy but fails to realize that the strong dollar is what empowers our ability to do anything. Caring about the budget is caring about the golden goose to lay future eggs but is mistaken for trying to hoard the current ones. I think the left largely misses the golden goose in the room entirely only to see that its eggs aren't distributed evenly. Last edited by Jub; Today at 03:44 PM. |
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Personally, I have no party. I vote for those who support what I feel is right and proper. There are no longer very many of those legislators around. Vote fraud cost us the Senate, and the Presidency. Trump was just OK on 2A. ahe excelled in putting America back to work, on keeping the lid on foreign aggression, on Israel (finally bringing the embassy to Jerusalem, after a generation of lily-livered appeasers defaulted), on bringing capital back into the country, on making us energy-independent, on motivating the electorate with MAGA, on alerting thr world to COVID in the absence of leadership from the corrupt WHO, on securing the borders against illegal immigration and infiltration of would-be terrorists and "caravans" of Soros-funded young men of MS-13 persuasion, and in bringing Black and Hispanic voters into the party. Hogan is no public servant, he's at best a neutral presence and at worst a ham-handed tyrant wannabe. Given what he's working against in this pathetic gerrymandered crypto-communist state, he could have been worse. I'll give him that. The bigger problems that America has at this time will be terminally exacerbated by the gun control measures that are definitely in the works. Those problems were aided and abetted, if not actually generated, by the actions and inactions of the Democratic Party. You think we have problems now? Wait a few months.
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