The Defeat of 2A Champion Delegate Smigiel

gprimr1 said:

This crap again. Let's get the facts straight.

No one told you to be quiet little timid deer.

The message was to not act like ****ing idiots, coming in dressed up like rednecks from east bumble**** with confederate flags on and ranting and raving non-sensical dribble.

Why is that so hard to understand?

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Mr H said:

zackly!!

That is one of the main reasons we haven't gotten any further than we have, IMO. People insisting on their way and tugging the centipede's legs in 100 different directions, rather than working together to make any progress forward.

If people want an organization--ANY organization--to work for them, then they have 2 options. Join and contribute (and maybe gain some influence), or GTF out of the way and let them do their jobs.

We will make more "noise" as thousands of similar voices, than we will getting ignored as rogue idiots looking like we have no clue.

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andimorony said:

I do want to point out one thing on this...the original version of 281 was EPIC-LY worse (is that even a word, lol) and thanks to all of you, the efforts of Delegate Mike Smigiel, Senator EJ Pipkin, the NRA, MSI, MSRPA and craptons of individuals we made it different. I still hate it but OMG, it would have been SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much worse. Please, do not underestimate the impact of a thousand voices lifted as one. It's easy to sit and complain about what we have NOW but still easier to forget what COULD have been.

We all did effect some solid change and think about allllll of the people-legislators and citizens alike who we educated along the way. We didn't get what we wanted (dead bill) but we did effect real change. Please do not go quietly into that good night, y'all!

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adit said:

Has anyone actually talked to Smigiel to see what his plans are?

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Brooklyn said:

If so I would not expect them to say anything here. I hope he takes the time to give some real thought to it.

He has my support regardless of his next move.

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frogman68 said:

I am not the one who keeps bringing it back up

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andimorony said:

I do want to point out one thing on this...the original version of 281 was EPIC-LY worse (is that even a word, lol) and thanks to all of you, the efforts of Delegate Mike Smigiel, Senator EJ Pipkin, the NRA, MSI, MSRPA and craptons of individuals we made it different. I still hate it but OMG, it would have been SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much worse. Please, do not underestimate the impact of a thousand voices lifted as one. It's easy to sit and complain about what we have NOW but still easier to forget what COULD have been.

We all did effect some solid change and think about allllll of the people-legislators and citizens alike who we educated along the way. We didn't get what we wanted (dead bill) but we did effect real change. Please do not go quietly into that good night, y'all!

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FrankZ said:

You were the one that chided MANY people for being one issue voters and not knowing the horrible person Mike is. Turns out you are a one issue advocator, and your one issue is you didn't get to stand in a spot. Yep, that trumps 2A.

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