AR Pistol (Some clarification please?)

Ronan · Jul 30, 2018

Hello all, i was hoping to get some clarification on AR pistols in Maryland.

What exactly do i need in term of paperwork to buy a AR lower from a MD gun store, with the intent of building a AR pistol? I read conflicting information about this... Wondering if i need a HQL since the 77r form seems to ask for it.

Please check if i understand the rest:
AR lower must NOT start as a rifle (so bare lower makes the process easier).
No fix/collapse stock, but arm braces are allowed and can be shouldered.
No vertical grips, but angled grips are allowed.
Barrel length/caliber doesn't matter.

Thank you

rseymorejr · Jul 30, 2018

Don't need the HQL for an AR15 lower and Yes the lower can never have been assembled as a rifle before. Buy a stripped lower and make sure the FFL lists it as "other" and you should be good to go. Not 100% about your other concerns.

Livingthedream · Jul 30, 2018

Your other concerns are correct.

Ronan · Jul 30, 2018

Thank you! Let me catch my wallet

rseymorejr · Jul 30, 2018

Ronan said:
Thank you! Let me catch my wallet

Yeah, when you catch it kiss it goodbye!

swinokur · Jul 31, 2018

And once you have purchased the lower, you can then use it to apply for an HQL with the training exemption as you now possess a regulated firearm per the statute

5-117.1

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Ronan · Jul 31, 2018

swinokur said:
And once you have purchased the lower, you can then use it to apply for an HQL with the training exemption as you now possess a regulated firearm per the statute

5-117.1

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I did not know that, thank you!

swinokur · Jul 31, 2018

Glad to help!

treasurehunter · Aug 2, 2018

One more concern for an ar pistol. Are folding stock adapters legal for these ar pistols?.

OLM-Medic · Aug 2, 2018

treasurehunter said:
One more concern for an ar pistol. Are folding stock adapters legal for these ar pistols?.

No. A stock makes it a rifle.

treasurehunter · Aug 2, 2018

I'm sorry, folding brace adapters.

outrider58 · Aug 2, 2018

treasurehunter said:
I'm sorry, folding brace adapters.

Legal

DutchV · Aug 2, 2018

On the 77R, look for the HQL exemption checkbox. One of the choices should be "buying receiver only", or similar wording. Receivers are exempt from the HQL but still have to go through a 77R.

treasurehunter · Aug 5, 2018

outrider58 said:
Legal

Thanks Outrider58. I would have bet a folding anything would not be allowed on a pistol build.

outrider58 · Aug 5, 2018

treasurehunter said:
Thanks Outrider58. I would have bet a folding anything would not be allowed on a pistol build.

The operational word hear is 'stock'. Pistols, by definition, can't and don't have stocks. Ergo, no stock to fold.

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tmo8320 · Mar 31, 2019

All,

My question is slightly different than the OPs. If one goes through an FFL in MD to buy a DD M4V7P 300 BLK with the LAW folding arm brace, does the flash hider need to be removed first?

It is not specifically listed on the prohibited items list. My confusion is around the law always speaking about RIFLES with two “assault weapon” features. An AR pistol is clearly not a rifle...and some people may not pay attention to such subtleties. Does anyone on here keep a printed copy of MD law in their weapon case / on their person at all times (just in case)?

This is the specific item in question:
https://danieldefense.com/firearms/daniel-defenser-ddm4v7p-law-tactical-300-blackout-mil-spec.html

My thanks in advance. I’ve seen some really great discussions in this forum. Thx!!

outrider58 · Apr 1, 2019

DD989 said:
All,

My question is slightly different than the OPs. If one goes through an FFL in MD to buy a DD M4V7P 300 BLK with the LAW folding arm brace, does the flash hider need to be removed first?

It is not specifically listed on the prohibited items list. My confusion is around the law always speaking about RIFLES with two “assault weapon” features. An AR pistol is clearly not a rifle...and some people may not pay attention to such subtleties. Does anyone on here keep a printed copy of MD law in their weapon case / on their person at all times (just in case)?

This is the specific item in question:
https://danieldefense.com/firearms/daniel-defenser-ddm4v7p-law-tactical-300-blackout-mil-spec.html

My thanks in advance. I’ve seen some really great discussions in this forum. Thx!!

Your link didn't work for me, but since you said "folding arm brace", we're assuming you are looking at a pistol. You should be fine as is. The law states "folding stocks" I believe. Pistols, by their nature, don't have stocks. My personal interpretation is a folding buffer tube is legal. Brace or no brace, it is still not a stock. Keep the flash hider.
IANAL

danb · Apr 1, 2019

Daniel Defense website is down at the moment so I'm not 100% sure which one this is.

If the question is "Does anyone on here keep a printed copy of MD law in their weapon case / on their person at all times (just in case)?" - no

If the question is "If one goes through an FFL in MD to buy a DD M4V7P 300 BLK with the LAW folding arm brace, does the flash hider need to be removed first? " - no. the Copycat provision applies to rifles, not pistols. FFLs are aware of the law and wont transfer an illegal gun (or mags).

Please though make sure this is on the handgun roster which applies to pistols. I am assuming that you have an HQL. I think that the Daniel Defense DDM V7P is on the roster, I think I have seen it. But make sure you check with FFL and they can find this model is well.

ironpony · Apr 1, 2019

300 BLK is regulated differently than the 223/556 too

danb · Apr 1, 2019

Daniel Defense DDM4 V7 P AR pistol is on the roster, I just checked. There are two models #s listed, you would have to check with your FFL whether these cover the AR pistol in question is post #16

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