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Old August 15th, 2021, 09:49 PM #1
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Strange conversation with MSP

My permit is expiring soon. I called MSP because i an in the 90 time frame. I asked if it expires before renewal would it be a subsequent ( need prints) or renewal (no prints needed) was told still a renewal.

I then said i know if it takes 90 days then i would just be with out a permit and unable to carry until i receive mine back. He said as long as they have it 15 days prior there is no problem.

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Old August 15th, 2021, 09:52 PM #2
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I was told similar but not having it in writing bugs me. Someone told me the other day of you get stopped they’ll call to see if you application is in progress and will be ok. I don’t believe it and still waiting for my renewal.


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As long as you send in a renewal prior to 2 weeks, you are good. It is written somewhere, but as you

know, MSP will interpret as needed. I trust MSP.. Please don't wait to renew 2 weeks prior!
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Seems like with electronic payment processing they’ve gotten to almost exactly 60-65 day processing start to finish, 90 day mark should leave enough of a buffer to be fine.
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My permit is expiring soon. I called MSP because i an in the 90 time frame. I asked if it expires before renewal would it be a subsequent ( need prints) or renewal (no prints needed) was told still a renewal.

I then said i know if it takes 90 days then i would just be with out a permit and unable to carry until i receive mine back. He said as long as they have it 15 days prior there is no problem.

Anyone else hear such a thing?

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That has been the case sine 2013, when they lost a case against them when a W&C holder submitted a renewal and was carrying on his old permit. He was charged with carrying without a permit. The court found that so long as he had a renewal pending and it did not come back denied, his old permit was still valid.
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I was told similar but not having it in writing bugs me. Someone told me the other day of you get stopped they’ll call to see if you application is in progress and will be ok. I don’t believe it and still waiting for my renewal.


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No need to worry about it, they have been consistent at honoring permits that are "expired" but in process of being renewed.
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As long as you send in a renewal prior to 2 weeks, you are good. It is written somewhere, but as you

know, MSP will interpret as needed. I trust MSP.. Please don't wait to renew 2 weeks prior!
Not written ion any statute, but a court decision against them had them change their process.
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From the FAQ on the page referenced below:

If my handgun permit should expire before I receive my renewed handgun permit card, can I still carry a handgun?

​As long as the renewal application has been received at the Handgun Permit Section at least two (2) weeks prior to the expiration date of the current handgun permit, you are still allowed to carry on the expired permit until you receive your renewed permit. If the application is returned to you for incompleteness and you resubmit it after the two (2) weeks, you will not be allowed to carry your handgun.​

It's written but I don't know where this interpretation above come from in Maryland statute.

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizati...rryPermit.aspx

I plan to submit 90 days out. I don't want to carry on an "expired" but not expired permit.
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I was planning on it but life got in the way. I have had 4 close friends due in the last couple of weeks and time just got away from me. Supporting friends is just slightly more important than the permit

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Seems super messy the way they are doing it (no surprise). Not every LE in MD is going to call the "gun center" and if they do, it may likely be post arrest/seizure of the property.

Seems like they are putting a lot of faith in an officer taking an extra step and contacting them.
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