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For my part, I am desensitized to the suffering of anyone who threatens my family or myself. I am not a cruel man, but if someone threatens the life of my family I could give a f?ck how painful their death is. I would prefer they die quickly, assuming I shot them in self defense or defense of my family, but that is only due to the practical consideration that the quicker they die the quicker the threat is absolutely mitigated. I just can't find it in my heart to feel sorry for violent criminals who come up on the wrong side of the violence.
If the guy were trying to steal a steak from the grocery store because he was hungry I'd feel differently, but robbing a pregnant woman. He got what he asked for.
glendonboy
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- Feb 20, 2012
- 52
I hope and pray(and sure) that vast majority of folks on this forum have not "witnessed worse". My intentions are to enlighten those who talk with a lot of bravado, but do not realize the true ramifications of a pulled trigger. I pondered for a while about posting this. Thought it would do more good than harm. Maybe I was wrong in posting. Really was not intending to question you personally. My intention was not to examine the crimes of the puke in the video, but the death scene itself. It strongly effected me. I watched it once only. I thought your post was directed at using as a crime deterrent(which might be good), but not the reason for the original post. Again sorry about your friend. My best friend as a kid shot himself this past January. We had not seen each other for 28 years. He killed himself one week after we had spent a whole day together.
K.C.Dean
Ultimate Member
Sorry about your friend and it is totally different in real life and it is something that stays with you for life. If you are ever in a situation like the one in the video you can't have thougts in your mind that will make you hesitate.
There was another video that was posted from Brazil where a couple of guys robbing a Pizza store and the police just shot them through the window. Again it wasn't pretty and is happening in this country. Look at Chicago
Videos like this one are the ones antis like to boast about to prove how evil guns are. The video you posted makes the criminal look like the victim but we know better. Just like the botched execution case that MSNBC is pushing making the scum bag a victim because he suffered. They don't mention the real victim a girl that was shot with a shot gun then burried alive. I hope you see what I am saying.
There was another video that was posted from Brazil where a couple of guys robbing a Pizza store and the police just shot them through the window. Again it wasn't pretty and is happening in this country. Look at Chicago
Videos like this one are the ones antis like to boast about to prove how evil guns are. The video you posted makes the criminal look like the victim but we know better. Just like the botched execution case that MSNBC is pushing making the scum bag a victim because he suffered. They don't mention the real victim a girl that was shot with a shot gun then burried alive. I hope you see what I am saying.
SCARCQB
Get Opp my rawn, Plick!
The point of having a firearm is for the weak to be able to defend themselves with deadly force if need be. It is to diminish the physical avantage of predators. Scenes in the video, illustrates that in vivid color.
I hope that people realize that the gun itself is neutral. The person holding the gun decides if it is to be used for good or evil. While the video is gory, horrific scenes are not limited to guns... Knives, fist, ropes , vehicles etc can also inflict such horrible injuries.things that we use on a daily basis. focusing on the gun smells like an agenda to me.
I hope that people realize that the gun itself is neutral. The person holding the gun decides if it is to be used for good or evil. While the video is gory, horrific scenes are not limited to guns... Knives, fist, ropes , vehicles etc can also inflict such horrible injuries.things that we use on a daily basis. focusing on the gun smells like an agenda to me.
jpo183
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One is curious why someone new to the forum would choose this as ones first post.....
DaemonAssassin
Why should we Free BSD?
Agreed...
glendonboy
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- Feb 20, 2012
- 52
I'm not new and it was not my first post.
HoCoAR
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- Nov 15, 2012
- 1,237
Think about what ... being the criminal or being the deceased victim?
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jpo183
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*sigh*
One is curious why someone THAT RARELY POST to the forum would choose this as ones few limited post.....
- Mar 16, 2014
- 369
Well, on behalf of all who are new to the group, thank you for the death/gore porn but, it seems a little preachy, gratuitous and self-serving IMHO. I think most of us already understand that busting someone in the ass (head, stomach, chest) with a firearm will result in the type of scene your video depicted. So, what's your point? Want me to think twice before pulling the trigger on some POS breaking into my house/threatening my family. Sorry but, your little video did nothing to change my perspective...at all. Try harder.
Save your hope and prayers for someone who needs them. It's too late for me because I've seen up close and personal what a Russian-made 82mm mortar did to a jeep with two of my best friends in it. All I need to do is look down at my right leg below the knee to remind me of what a 'pulled trigger' (in this case an intentionally dropped mortar round) can do. I'm sure that the bravado-talkers appreciate your effort to enlighten them but, I personally could do without any additional enlightenment by a pompous SOB supposedly trying to be helpful.
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I'm missing something with all the hate. I appreciate the video. I think it should be shown - not for thinking twice about self- or family-defense, but to get dumb asses to think twice about committing crimes. "Is stealing that purse really worth the possibility of you ending up like this" ought to be the question asked.
- Dec 27, 2012
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The thread is insulting. It says "hey guys guns are really, really dangerous and if you shoot someone on purpose or by accident it could be really, really gross. Are you sure you really want to own a gun because they are really, really dangerous."
I see. I didn't take it quite that way (a poltical/social commentary). I took it more along the line of the age old question "how will someone react in a particular situation."
I hope I never have to find out for myself.
I hope I never have to find out for myself.
- Dec 20, 2013
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I disagree completely. The last thing I'd want is to educate criminals and give them a reason to shoot first. Surprise must remain a weapon in the good guy's arsenal, as I'm sure was the case in the crime depicted in that video.
Perhaps a mistake on my part, but I was thinking that showing them the potential consequences of their crimes might get them to think, but by them being criminals, that is probably wasted effort.
glendonboy
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- Feb 20, 2012
- 52
What I was trying to do with the video is reiforce the awesome responsiblity of having one is. sorry you were insulted. I took it down.
glendonboy
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- Feb 20, 2012
- 52
Sorry, but words mean things. And how many posts do you need to choose something like this to post? Did not see that in the rules.
You should stand by the courage of your convictions and put the video back up.
axshon
Ultimate Member
It's not hard to find the video online elsewhere. LiveLeak has it.
There are lots of armchair soldiers who talk the talk but freak out when its time to walk the walk. Not so much here which I think is why the OP has received some of the responses he has. There are plenty of LEOs, military and former military who have witnessed the blood and guts, sometimes at their own hands and sometimes on their own bodies. Some here are mall ninja but most are not.
I try to impress on my kids while shooting that there are mistakes and there are MISTAKES. One means you miss the target, the other means someone is hurt badly or dead and there is nothing you can do to make it right. You just have to live with the consequences.
I took the OPs tone to mean that we should all be aware that the power of administering life and death is a decision that should be prepared for and thought out far in advance because it is an ugly and permanent thing once you pull the trigger, regardless of whether it is warranted. Again, I think most here already understand that.
There are lots of armchair soldiers who talk the talk but freak out when its time to walk the walk. Not so much here which I think is why the OP has received some of the responses he has. There are plenty of LEOs, military and former military who have witnessed the blood and guts, sometimes at their own hands and sometimes on their own bodies. Some here are mall ninja but most are not.
I try to impress on my kids while shooting that there are mistakes and there are MISTAKES. One means you miss the target, the other means someone is hurt badly or dead and there is nothing you can do to make it right. You just have to live with the consequences.
I took the OPs tone to mean that we should all be aware that the power of administering life and death is a decision that should be prepared for and thought out far in advance because it is an ugly and permanent thing once you pull the trigger, regardless of whether it is warranted. Again, I think most here already understand that.
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