Virginia Election Nov 5: Are the Republicans even trying?!

Czechnologist · Nov 6, 2019

HaveBlue said:
No, not Dimocrap and definitely not a socialist. Those groups vote.

You sir, are simply bad at math.

It's true. I've always been bad at math.

PTossern916 · Nov 6, 2019

As someone who has lived in Rockville, but originally from Boston, I've always felt under enemy siege. I wish I had found this site earlier. My thoughts are that Trump had nothing to do with it. As the Democrats say, demographics is destiny. America is becoming less sufficient, and more incompetent and brainwashed. That's what happens when you have abundance for decades. A peaceful two state solution is our best bet. The alternative will be unpleasant for everyone.

rob · Nov 6, 2019

Defense Rifle said:
I don't disagree there are liberals moving to NC. What I'm saying is recent trends show more people moving from Republican states to NC than people from Democratic states. Also rich liberal folks tend to have fewer kids, and rural conservative folks tend to have a lot more. NC has very large conservative rural and suburban areas, without having a massive populous Democratic city such as DC.

If you look at the Presidential election results since 2004, NC has gotten more Republican each year, except for 2008.

It's always possible a state can flip, but NC doesn't have many of the things that caused Virginia to go total blue.

Remember back 20 years ago, it wasn't liberals who were fleeing MD to NoVA, it was conservatives who saw how things were going. It was only as things started to get worse that the libs, who saw their successful friends fleeing to a land of greater opportunity, lower taxes and less government, followed suit.

Rob.

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rob · Nov 6, 2019

AliasNeo07 said:
Seems amazing to me that people will blame everything and everybody except for Trump.

I agree completely. We all know the Trump is wholly to blame for all the ills that drove liberals to VA. MS13 in MoCo, Columbia being more like PG county than ever, Baltimore's murder rate, sanctuary policies,the urban sprawl up I270, Maryland's high cost of living, business unfriendly policies, stupid govt policies, the decline in schools, and HoCo busing.

Rob.

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Oldline6 · Nov 7, 2019

Atrox88 said:
Scared of politicians? Clarify please. I sincerely doubt anyone on this forum is scared of any politician. It's their actions that bothers me and I only see it getting worse everywhere. This is not about what's best for the country. It's about power and control. Say what you want but right now the dems seem to have a game plan that is more effective.

I suspect, for the most part, you are on target...

But what we have to lean on is the courts. WE. Have. Rights.

The SCOTUS has to develop that body of 2A law to demonstrate that.

We can swing in the wind every election day. The courts have to firmly lay down what those rights are, 2A law is woefully underdeveloped, because it makes people in positions of power have a nervous twitch...

But it needs to be done, and it needs to be done now, when we have self-proclaimed socialists running for the presidency, and the likes of Beto babbling about knocking on your door and having guys with guns take YOUR rifle...

calicojack · Nov 9, 2019

I just have one simple observation; voter turn out. The percentage of Republicans voting this time around was low, and yes it is an "off year" election, but come on guys! Get get out and vote! To the 80% (or something like that) who did not vote, you pretty much have asked for the Red Flag laws and bans that are to follow.

HaveBlue · Dec 5, 2019

calicojack said:
I just have one simple observation; voter turn out. The percentage of Republicans voting this time around was low, and yes it is an "off year" election, but come on guys! Get get out and vote! To the 80% (or something like that) who did not vote, you pretty much have asked for the Red Flag laws and bans that are to follow.

Mathematically you are correct. If you don’t vote that’s one less vote to be overcome by the side you least agree with. Especially if we are talking about schools, roads, state plant, fire & police stations.

Unless we are talking about a Constitutional Convention, not voting shouldn’t result in the nullification of the COTUS.

I did & do vote. I strongly encourage others to do the same.

Bisleyfan44 · Dec 6, 2019

Zzzzz_man said:
Well, some of us have no intention of voting for either Trump (again) or the party that has indeed swung leftwards into an embrace of socialism as the central thesis for their vision of governance. Period. Some of us have simply...had enough of the BS and want no further part of it, yet, we'll be labeled as 'socialists' and 'dimocraps' here (anyway) simply because of that.

But kindly point to where any of us have said, "Don't vote for Trump! Vote Democrat!" because you won't find it no matter how deep you dig and in the end, all that you have is fear as a motivator. Sorry, it's not a good enough reason this time for me to drag my ass to the polls and pull the lever for four more years of this toxic shitshow.

PJDiesel said:
Well, I'm flattered you think I'm THAT influential over the average MDS Member. I tend to disagree.

I'll have to wait to see who the RNC is going to put up when Trump is removed or resigns. Until then I won't be able to commit to a candidate I can support.

Zzzzz_man said:
Apologies for missing that question. I don't recall it ever being asked.

Truth is, I no longer care. I really don't. Politics has degenerated into a form of cheap entertainment for folks who enjoy all the breathless melodrama of a bad soap opera and want to be a part of it. Politics is a convenient and BS-excuse for certain members of this group to ignore, unfriend and otherwise declare 'enemies' because they don't happen share exactly the same F'd-up view of the world so, in lieu of further fanning the flames of derision, I'll answer by saying, "None Of The Above" for now. The election is still a year away. Can I get back to you on that? Or, are you demanding my oath of loyalty to Trump right now? Thanks in advance.

Nancy Pelosi smiles. Mission accomplished!

rbird7282 · Dec 6, 2019

PJDiesel said:
You haven't mentioned who will run in place of Trump and if they CAN win, is that not one of the possibilities?

I say "here" because it's been an echo chamber lately.

No that’s not one of the possibilities and you know it.
Unless he were removed from office, which again we both know isn’t happening, there is no one out there who would be able to primary him out next year.

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Czechnologist · Dec 6, 2019

Bisleyfan44 said:
Nancy Pelosi smiles. Mission accomplished!

Cry me a river. If you think my one little vote, in the bluest of blue states, is going to have any effect on the outcome of the 2020 election, then go right ahead and start the fvcking finger-pointing and name-calling. I really don't give a shit. :rolleyes:

PJDiesel · Dec 6, 2019

Boss94 · Dec 7, 2019

calicojack said:
I just have one simple observation; voter turn out. The percentage of Republicans voting this time around was low, and yes it is an "off year" election, but come on guys! Get get out and vote! To the 80% (or something like that) who did not vote, you pretty much have asked for the Red Flag laws and bans that are to follow.

actually the numbers I saw showed something like a 14% more turn out of Republicans than Democrats in the Virginia race. what the big problem was there were Democrats running by themselves. no Republican person to run against.

rascal · Dec 10, 2019

rob said:
I agree completely. We all know the Trump is wholly to blame for all the ills that drove liberals to VA. MS13 in MoCo, Columbia being more like PG county than ever, Baltimore's murder rate, sanctuary policies,the urban sprawl up I270, Maryland's high cost of living, business unfriendly policies, stupid govt policies, the decline in schools, and HoCo busing.

lol exactly. Its all trump's fault with these guys. They's blame polio on him if they could.

Biggfoot44 · Dec 10, 2019

Don't get me wrong , the Electoral College is a fine thing, and fundamental to our Country .

That said , most of us live and vote in Maryland, where there hasn't been a competitive Presidential Election since 1988 , and likely never will again .

rockstarr · Dec 11, 2019

Biggfoot44 said:
Don't get me wrong , the Electoral College is a fine thing, and fundamental to our Country .

That said , most of us live and vote in Maryland, where there hasn't been a competitive Presidential Election since 1988 , and likely never will again .

was it even competitive then ? I thought it wasn't even close all the way back to the 60's lol.

Biggfoot44 · Dec 12, 2019

'88 Md voted for Bush Sr , by narrow margin .

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