For anyone that was wondering about my situation..

elmerjr128 · Aug 2, 2013

Some of you may have seen my post this past weekend regarding my ex girlfriend and a ******** temporary protective order. Just wanted to provide an update in case anyone was wondering..

The judge basically said she was being ridiculous and was wasting the court's time which could have been spent protecting people who actually need to be protected.

Needless to say I'll be up at Cresap on Sunday enjoying my recently completed AR.

Have a good weekend my friends.

AntiGun · Aug 2, 2013

elmerjr128 · Aug 2, 2013

So I'm guessing I'll have to check yes to the protective order question on regulated firearm paperwork and provide an explanation for any future purchases, correct?

It's amazing that these nonsense cases cannot be expunged in Maryland, even with no evidence whatsoever. Thanks Owe'Malley.

hvymax · Aug 2, 2013

Congrats and sorry bout your bad luck.

daggo66 · Aug 2, 2013

elmerjr128 said:
So I'm guessing I'll have to check yes to the protective order question on regulated firearm paperwork and provide an explanation for any future purchases, correct?

It's amazing that these nonsense cases cannot be expunged in Maryland, even with no evidence whatsoever. Thanks Owe'Malley.

I don't believe you will have to since you don't currently have one out on you.

watts · Aug 2, 2013

Glad it worked out for you. Did you end up getting a lawyer?

elmerjr128 · Aug 2, 2013

daggo66 said:
I don't believe you will have to since you don't currently have one out on you.

That's what I'm hoping. Would really be a pain to have to explain this for every regulated purchase. I wonder if "crazy spiteful ex" would be sufficient?

Bullfrog · Aug 2, 2013

elmerjr128 said:
So I'm guessing I'll have to check yes to the protective order question on regulated firearm paperwork and provide an explanation for any future purchases, correct?

It's amazing that these nonsense cases cannot be expunged in Maryland, even with no evidence whatsoever. Thanks Owe'Malley.

Form 4473, Question 11h. Are you subject to a court order restraining you from harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner?

IANAL, but if the judge laughed her out of court and the order was NOT granted, then you are not subject to a (nonexistant) order, right? There's no such order to be subject to... right?

elmerjr128 · Aug 2, 2013

Yup, sounds like you guys are correct. I needed to read the actual language of the question.

elmerjr128 · Aug 2, 2013

watts said:
Glad it worked out for you. Did you end up getting a lawyer?

I spoke to a friend of my brother who is an attorney and she suggested not even wasting my money after she heard the facts. Glad I took her advice. The hearing took less than 5 minutes.

Bullfrog · Aug 2, 2013

elmerjr128 said:
Yup, sounds like you guys are correct. I needed to read the actual language of the question.

I don't know what the exact language is on the Maryland form (77r-1, correct?)... I can't find it anywhere for download.

elmerjr128 · Aug 2, 2013

I remember something about "have you ever been subject to an ex parte order..." etc, etc, which if I'm not mistaken is exactly what the temporary protective order is. I'm not sure but I'm not too concerned about it considering the outcome. I just wish Maryland Judiciary Case Search had a disposition category of "Petitioner was laughed out of court by Judge"

watts · Aug 2, 2013

You could always ask to see the form the next time you're window shopping.

elmerjr128 · Aug 2, 2013

I have a lower that will be ready for pickup soon so I'll definitely do that. After some googling I believe the wording is "are you subject to a NON ex parte civil order..." so I should be good, but will absolutely double check.

If any Industry Partners see this thread, maybe you could do me a favor and relay that exact question?

daggo66 · Aug 2, 2013

elmerjr128 said:
I remember something about "have you ever been subject to an ex parte order..." etc, etc, which if I'm not mistaken is exactly what the temporary protective order is. I'm not sure but I'm not too concerned about it considering the outcome. I just wish Maryland Judiciary Case Search had a disposition category of "Petitioner was laughed out of court by Judge"

It definitely does not say "Have you ever".

elmerjr128 · Aug 2, 2013

daggo66 said:
It definitely does not say "Have you ever".

You're definitely right. It's the whiskey talkin.

daggo66 · Aug 2, 2013

elmerjr128 said:
You're definitely right. It's the whiskey talkin.

I'm into some bourbon myself at the moment. I wasn't trying to be a smartass, I just happen to know it doesn't have that wording. :innocent0

dspurlock · Aug 2, 2013

daggo66 said:
I'm into some bourbon myself at the moment. I wasn't trying to be a smartass, I just happen to know it doesn't have that wording.

mmmm real bourbon.... I love Friday night

Wojo · Aug 2, 2013

Question 4 on the form is what you are after, correct?

http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=2049196&postcount=93

bmelton · Aug 3, 2013

I dunno about the old 77Rs, but the language on the new ones (as proposed) is "Are you the respondent against whom a current non ex parte civil protective order has been entered under §4-506 of the Family Law Article, or against whom an order for protection as defined in 4-508.1 of the Family Law Article has been issued by a court of another state of Native American tribe and is in effect?"

For anyone that was wondering about my situation..

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