toolness1
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Ladies? What are you, transphobic or something?
The official Swiss rifle porn thread.
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Abulg1972
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I just realized that the bolt handles match the rifle (694 - last 3 digits of the serial). Pretty amazing that this rifle is in this shape after 124 years.
Abulg1972
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So, as I'm reading Poyer's book again and paying closer attention to the parts regarding the M1889, I see the attached.
Sure doesn't seem to me like the magazine meets the Maryland definition of "detachable magazine", but I guess that showing this book to an out of state seller will get us nowhere. As an aside, I tried hard to remove the magazine without removing the trigger guard, and I could get it out only once out of maybe 10 tries.
Sure doesn't seem to me like the magazine meets the Maryland definition of "detachable magazine", but I guess that showing this book to an out of state seller will get us nowhere. As an aside, I tried hard to remove the magazine without removing the trigger guard, and I could get it out only once out of maybe 10 tries.
toolness1
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So, as I'm reading Poyer's book again and paying closer attention to the parts regarding the M1889, I see the attached.
Sure doesn't seem to me like the magazine meets the Maryland definition of "detachable magazine", but I guess that showing this book to an out of state seller will get us nowhere. As an aside, I tried hard to remove the magazine without removing the trigger guard, and I could get it out only once out of maybe 10 tries.
Yep, it'll come out if you do it Juuuuuuust right, but definitely wasn't designed to be able to do it quickly!
Awesome that the bolt handles match. Still wish they would have used metal on those, glad they finally learned with the K31!
I'm kind of surprised they didn't upgrade those as they went along...
hodgepodge
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The Waffenlauf is a type of Swiss marathon where every current or former soldier can participate. They are required to carry an army rifle (such as the K31, Stgw 57 and Stgw 90) and their uniform.
Pictured is the all time champion Albrecht Moser, that won this competition over 50 times while carrying his old K31 and his old army uniform.
Combloc
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WoW!!
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MilsurpDan
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Swiss Rifles will be a new(er) collecting focus of mine. My goal is to add most of the main battle rifles from Post-Napoleonic Wars to the 1950's. I'm in the process of taking new photos of my collection, so some of my older pictures won't be of the best quality
My earliest rifles first.
Swiss M1817/42 Smoothbore Musket. Converted from Flintlock to Percussion 18mm
Swiss M1817/42/59/67 Milbank-Amsler Breechloader conversion. Started life as a Smoothbore Flintlock Musket, then converted to percussion cap, then rifled, and then converted into a breechloader. 18x28mm Rimfire.
Swiss Contract M1867 Peabody Rifle. Swiss bought these to use as a transitional rifle before the adoption of the Vetterli. 10.4x38mm Rimfire
M1896/11 Rifle. Originally 1898 Dated
K11 Carbine. 1917 Dated
K31 1952 Dated
My earliest rifles first.
Swiss M1817/42 Smoothbore Musket. Converted from Flintlock to Percussion 18mm
Swiss M1817/42/59/67 Milbank-Amsler Breechloader conversion. Started life as a Smoothbore Flintlock Musket, then converted to percussion cap, then rifled, and then converted into a breechloader. 18x28mm Rimfire.
Swiss Contract M1867 Peabody Rifle. Swiss bought these to use as a transitional rifle before the adoption of the Vetterli. 10.4x38mm Rimfire
M1896/11 Rifle. Originally 1898 Dated
K11 Carbine. 1917 Dated
K31 1952 Dated
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amoebicmagician
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are you using reloads in this pic? I've seen good results with epoxy jacketed projectiles in rifles with velocites under 2800 fps with gas checks, or 2200 fps or thereabouts without
amoebicmagician
Samopal Goblin
oh my dear god, please tell me you have groups to post! I have been wondering what kind of accuracy these guys can get with a decent optic, PLEASE let me know!
I have posted this previously in the range thread. But here one of my K31's with a Hi-Lux 2-7x LER scout scope. I'm amazed at how accurate this can be.
This past weekend I was checking my zero on the scope for a Surplus Rifle postal match. This was shot from the bench and sand bag supported at 100 yards using GP11. 5 rounds at around a 1.5 inch group.
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CLee
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I second the "Wow" on this! I can't imagine running this with my Schmidt-Rubin 1896/11 slung over my back. What am I saying, I can't imagine running it with any of them slung over my back! LOL I need to go look this up now and read more on it.
And I will post pictures of mine later. It is in pieces and we are cleaning it and putting linseed oil on the wood. We did not sand it though, just lightly took steel wool to it then started with the linseed oil to preserve/protect it. Did not want to lose any cartouches.
Abulg1972
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I second the "Wow" on this! I can't imagine running this with my Schmidt-Rubin 1896/11 slung over my back. What am I saying, I can't imagine running it with any of them slung over my back! LOL I need to go look this up now and read more on it.
And I will post pictures of mine later. It is in pieces and we are cleaning it and putting linseed oil on the wood. We did not sand it though, just lightly took steel wool to it then started with the linseed oil to preserve/protect it. Did not want to lose any cartouches.
Why would you oil the stock on a Swiss rifle??
toolness1
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Yeah, I cast my own bullets from wheel weights, then powder coat them with Harbor Freight red powder coat. I use the dry tumble method. I've had excellent luck with them, and haven't ever used anything else to lube a cast bullet. I started with powder coat, and will stick with that forever.
I think I have a thread on my method in the reloading forum here.
Check the range pics thread, many of the targets I post are my powder coated cast reloads, such as the M95M group I got yesterday.
toolness1
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I'm using a $20 scope I found used at a pawn shop. I will be getting something nicer one of these days.
From my Scoped K-31 on 9-24-15:
This is a 5 round group at 50 yards with Barnes 175gr Match Burners and 47.5gr Reloader 17 (Swiss powder, supposedly the same as GP-11)
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CLee
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She was a tad rough when we got her. Just doing some restoration/preservation.
Abulg1972
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I need to shoot this $100 box of ammo.
toolness1
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I need to shoot this $100 box of ammo.
Looks like a fun reloading challenge. Rimfire right?
CLee
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Back to the picture of Albrecht, as high as his rifle sticks up past his head, I'm not so sure it's a K31. Think he may have had the rifle instead, it doesn't look short enough to be a Karbiner to me...
Abulg1972
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