Eagle Arms Shows ban 80% receiver sales

Muleskinner · Mar 15, 2021

Trigger Tuner said:
At some point we are going to have to admit that it is a problem with prohibited people buying and using these guns on the street. I really can't blame the guy for not wanting to be part of criminals getting these things.

Well hell then, lets just ban the sale of ALL firearms using your logic...Because your words are the very "ammunition" that left wing politicians use to take away our rights...

We don't have to admit ANYTHING of the sort because it's just stupid to think this is the only way prohibited people can get their guns...Which would you prefer? Prohibited people from buying kits or breaking into your home to steal yours....

Muleskinner · Mar 15, 2021

Trigger Tuner said:
You obviously haven't seen the 80% pistol kits that any idiot can finish in about 5 minutes with a pair of pliers and a hand drill.

It was a little different when you had to spend a fair amount of time and money, and then have as least some mechanical ability to mill a 1911 or AR receiver.
I knew when these Glock kits first came out that it wasn't going to be long before they started showing up on the streets the way they are today.

You fudds should just stop. You're showing that you are fair weather 2A supporters....I.E. not real firearms advocates.

Clifjr · Mar 15, 2021

Well there Facebook page is taking a beating and they removed the post with the notification that I shared here earlier on post 17. Something tells me there future shows won’t have any lines of people waiting to get in!

alucard0822 · Mar 15, 2021

F-em, last thing we need is to hand gun control folk a poster boy for their buffoonery. The problem with 80% receivers isn't necessarily the parts themselves,, but what defines a "firearm", and the arcane definitions codified.in law, and ATF's unelected burocrats constant attempts to create gun law. it opens the floodgates to new regulations of non regulated "parts", and expand the definition of "firearms". and the restriction of our rights Reason, compromise and good faith do not matter when one side's just hell bent to ban everything they can, and they will run with any political momentum, and hold any fund that agrees with them up as an example of their "reasonable" demands. Eagle Arms needs to be taken to the woodshed over this, thanks for the contact info.

Nickberg500 · Mar 15, 2021

alucard0822 said:
F-em, last thing we need is to hand gun control folk a poster boy for their buffoonery. The problem with 80% receivers isn't necessarily the parts themselves,, but what defines a "firearm", and the arcane definitions codified.in law, and ATF's unelected burocrats constant attempts to create gun law. it opens the floodgates to new regulations of non regulated "parts", and expand the definition of "firearms". and the restriction of our rights Reason, compromise and good faith do not matter when one side's just hell bent to ban everything they can, and they will run with any political momentum, and hold any fund that agrees with them up as an example of their "reasonable" demands. Eagle Arms needs to be taken to the woodshed over this, thanks for the contact info.

No problem. Here's their direct contact info for new people on the thread:

Call:*(610) 393-3047
Email:*info@eagleshows.com

Muleskinner · Mar 15, 2021

People need to remember one very important thing...the federal government approved and sanctioned every 80 percent frame and receiver available for purchase before they ever went into production. I foresee a time when the government makes them illegal to produce but until that time they are legal. Using the excuse that they are the chosen method for prohibited people to purchase a firearm so they should be banned is exactly how gun grabbing democrats think. I see we have more gun grabbing dems here then we realize.

babalou · Mar 15, 2021

exactly

axshon said:
Not buying it. They're saying that the gangs are buying them 15 at a time and then buying the slides, barrels and parts kits. If they're buying off the shelf they are paying WAY OVER RETAIL for a standard hand gun. Wouldn't that be traceable? Why are they not tracking these guys down? All the banks are turning over transactions aren't they? But then they are doing the machining, assembly and testing. All this to skirt the firearms laws THAT THEY ARE ALREADY IGNORING. Doesn't ring true. Doesn't get them anything except a paper trail. I work in data. You can make data say any damned thing you want. I repeat, I'm not buying that there is some huge uptick in gang crime using 'ghost guns'. That data is not real.

Now, if they were buying 10,000 at a time in order to arm military units with identical weapons to lower the servicing costs by their armorers and improve reliability with volume it might makes sense but again, hello paper trail.

Keeping them out of the gun shows wouldn't be a solution to this in any rational universe. Even if monkeys fly out my butt and it did help, it wouldn't even make the top five fastest ways to fix the problem.

And they all know it...

Agree 100% They seem to have no problems stealing guns and removing the serial numbers.... Crisis looking for a cause.

Muleskinner · Mar 15, 2021

babalou said:
Agree 100% They seem to have no problems stealing guns and removing the serial numbers.... Crisis looking for a cause.

The government considers all guns without serial numbers as ghost guns...that includes firearms that have had their SNs obliterated. Only a small percentage used in the commission of a crime are actually P80s or ARs built with 80% receivers.

babalou · Mar 15, 2021

exactly

Muleskinner said:
The government considers all guns without serial numbers as ghost guns...that includes firearms that have had their SNs obliterated. Only a small percentage used in the commission of a crime are actually P80s or ARs built with 80% receivers.

Exactly. Why pay more for an 80% than a retail gun when you can steal one and do exactly what you stated. Yup Yup.

dblas · Mar 15, 2021

axshon said:
Not buying it. They're saying that the gangs are buying them 15 at a time and then buying the slides, barrels and parts kits. If they're buying off the shelf they are paying WAY OVER RETAIL for a standard hand gun. Wouldn't that be traceable? Why are they not tracking these guys down? All the banks are turning over transactions aren't they? But then they are doing the machining, assembly and testing. All this to skirt the firearms laws THAT THEY ARE ALREADY IGNORING. Doesn't ring true. Doesn't get them anything except a paper trail. I work in data. You can make data say any damned thing you want. I repeat, I'm not buying that there is some huge uptick in gang crime using 'ghost guns'. That data is not real.

Now, if they were buying 10,000 at a time in order to arm military units with identical weapons to lower the servicing costs by their armorers and improve reliability with volume it might makes sense but again, hello paper trail.

Keeping them out of the gun shows wouldn't be a solution to this in any rational universe. Even if monkeys fly out my butt and it did help, it wouldn't even make the top five fastest ways to fix the problem.

And they all know it...

Are you making the assumption they are using credit cards to purchase all of these?

teratos · Mar 15, 2021

Muleskinner said:
The government considers all guns without serial numbers as ghost guns...that includes firearms that have had their SNs obliterated. Only a small percentage used in the commission of a crime are actually P80s or ARs built with 80% receivers.

I serialized all my 80%’s in case they get stolen. I want them back. If the government was pro-2A and anti-criminal, they could recommend they be serialized, but no requirement for registration would be instituted.

The government is anti-2A and pro-criminal.

Brickman301 · Mar 15, 2021

Muleskinner said:
The government considers all guns without serial numbers as ghost guns...that includes firearms that have had their SNs obliterated. Only a small percentage used in the commission of a crime are actually P80s or ARs built with 80% receivers.

And don’t forget about all those firearms that were made before 1968. Before then SN’s weren’t required, and a lot of manufacturers didn’t use them.

Docster · Mar 15, 2021

Trigger Tuner said:
You obviously haven't seen the 80% pistol kits that any idiot can finish in about 5 minutes with a pair of pliers and a hand drill.

It was a little different when you had to spend a fair amount of time and money, and then have as least some mechanical ability to mill a 1911 or AR receiver.
I knew when these Glock kits first came out that it wasn't going to be long before they started showing up on the streets the way they are today.

You're a Mom Demanding Action. I bet you'll justify it further "if it saves just one life". You are neither a 2A supporter nor believe in the Constitution. Your memberships and signature is hypocrisy

Here's the link to SAF. Send them copies of your posts if you've got the guts.

https://www.saf.org/

Tungsten · Mar 15, 2021

If gangs are buying 15 at a time, and the feds are staking out the parking lots, wouldn't that be a great opportunity for law enforcement to pick these people up while catching them in the act? Oh wait, I forgot, we can't go actually incarcerating criminals these days.

axshon · Mar 15, 2021

dblas said:
Are you making the assumption they are using credit cards to purchase all of these?

I’m making the assumption that there are a hell of a lot more transactions required than an 80% lower and no one getting the vapors is talking about them. There are tons of things they could be doing but they’re not. Why? Because they know damned well gangs are not the problem they’re trying to solve. The problem for them is that a bunch of hillbillies have effective(ish) guns that didn’t go through the system they control.

rbird7282 · Mar 15, 2021

Occam said:
I was just thinking the same thing, as I stare at a stack of P80 frame boxes waiting for me to make them killy. My wife saw the black lettering on the boxes from across the room and says, “What’s a polymerbo?”

I just bought a pile of parts so she can finish her first one solo.

Yeah I think it’s time fir me to jump on the 80% train

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whistlersmother · Mar 15, 2021

Tungsten said:
If gangs are buying 15 at a time, and the feds are staking out the parking lots, wouldn't that be a great opportunity for law enforcement to pick these people up while catching them in the act? Oh wait, I forgot, we can't go actually incarcerating criminals these days.

And how is buying 15 paperweights illegal? What can the prosecutor do about legal paperweights?

Sounds like the prosecutor doesn't have the guts to stand up for law-abiding people by burying criminals under the jail after conviction of something that is illegal.

Combloc · Mar 15, 2021

Tungsten said:
....................... Oh wait, I forgot, we can't go actually incarcerating criminals these days.

You have no idea how bad it is. I was recently involved in a case where a MoCo judge knocked approx. 5 years off the sentence of a guy who was in this country on a green card. He had raped a nine year old child and has now been released to home detention, to be supervised by a private company no less. There is an ICE detainer but the judge essentially gave the middle finger to the feds and said that he can voluntarily turn himself in when his home detention is finished. Yeah.....that's gonna' happen. In no time, he will disappear like a fart in the wind. I promise you that this once great state's level of libtardia is WAY worse than you can possibly imagine.

randomuser · Mar 15, 2021

axshon said:
I’m making the assumption that there are a hell of a lot more transactions required than an 80% lower and no one getting the vapors is talking about them. There are tons of things they could be doing but they’re not. Why? Because they know damned well gangs are not the problem they’re trying to solve. The problem for them is that a bunch of hillbillies have effective(ish) guns that didn’t go through the system they control.

Much truth in this post.

On another note...
I can't believe some of undercover Mom's demand action posts that I've seen on this thread.

Combloc · Mar 15, 2021

Bullfrog said:
I haven't decided, but I'm leaning that way.

I don't have any interest in buying any polymer 80's, but then I didn't have any interest in bump stocks either.

One chip at a time...

Exactly. I too have absolutely zero interest in either of those items but banning them is 100% unacceptable. It is quite simply a violation of the principles this country was built upon.

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