Yes. At AGC you can shoot about anything up to .50 BMG, except no tracers.
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Yes. At AGC you can shoot about anything up to .50 BMG, except no tracers.
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I replaced the Eotech on mine with a Docter sight. It cut down on the weight and eliminated " bleeding fingers". The Eotech gets in the way of the charging handle. The extended one is Okay but tends to snag.
I was going to mention the extended one before I finished reading your message. Snag, eh? How so? Which EOtech were you using? Perhaps I can save my money now. The iron sights are very good and the gun is pretty damn accurate.
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I was using a 551 on it. I have switched recently to a Docter sight. 1913mount. That gives an absolute co- witness configuration with the Max-11 iron sights. I have also mounted it on the rearmost position of the rail as to clear the charging handle. It is lightweight and does not upset the silhouette of the gun. It is also just as fast as the Eotech.
I have a Leupold Delta Dot on order. I think that is much better than the Docter due to its triangular reticle. The Point can be used for longer range shots.
I have a Leupold Delta Dot on order. I think that is much better than the Docter due to its triangular reticle. The Point can be used for longer range shots.
Do you think the EOLad model will be a bit uncomfortable to use?
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The laser on the Eolad is mounted on the left side of the sight. The same place as the MAX-11s charging handle. I dont own an Eolad but think that it would be in the way.
Yeah....I noticed that it was on the charging side....that's damn unfortunate. It will save me $700 though. I wish I could find a unit just to test on there to be certain.
I put the MAX-11 on par with the MP5. While it certainly lacks the MP5's craftsmanship, it has been known to out shoot it in competitions. I've had no problems shooting 124g out of my gun. Nearly all problems related to the MAC are magazine issues. The gun is so simple that mechanical issues are few and far between.
The UZI's bolt can slap around quite a bit and it is nowhere near as customizable as the MAC. Generally speaking I prefer a closed bolt, but I've been very happy with my purchase.
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I had mine converted to use Sten mags. They are hard to load but mags are cheap and plentiful.
The Lage upper is well built. The slower rate of fire allows you to keep the selector in SMG mode. Burst, double and single shot are possible in full auto. That was impossible to do with a stock M-11/9 with a cyclic rate of 1200 rpm
The Lage upper is well built. The slower rate of fire allows you to keep the selector in SMG mode. Burst, double and single shot are possible in full auto. That was impossible to do with a stock M-11/9 with a cyclic rate of 1200 rpm
IMBLITZVT
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Well I love my Eotech. The extended handle is ok with me. I would consider other sites too but I do love that Eotech. There are so many good options out there its kind of personal taste with none being bad. I think I like having that larger circle than just a dot. I also like having that larger view.
I would say a MP5 outclasses the Max11 but it certainly there with the UZI.
The mag problem can be solved with recon ordnance mags! All steal.
Of course I just got the DF (Dual Feed) conversion with Suomi mags. Thats an awesome conversion!
I would say a MP5 outclasses the Max11 but it certainly there with the UZI.
The mag problem can be solved with recon ordnance mags! All steal.
Of course I just got the DF (Dual Feed) conversion with Suomi mags. Thats an awesome conversion!
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That is because I keep losing them things in " boating accidents"
What you see are replacements.
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Nothing wrong with the Eotech. It is just that I keep snagging the sides of the sight when charging the Lage. But that is me...my screw ups do not apply to everyone.
I'm going to have to give more attention to my Macs. The lage that I currently have is a bit too heavy with that steel suppressor. I need to streamline it a bit.
A tactical bolt might be a good idea to speed it up a bit as well as shave some ounces.
How does it outclass outside of the build quality and the open vs. closed debate?
Not a fan of the RO mags. They need mag stops welded on and I lack a welder. The zytels work well if you upgrade them with Wolff UZI mag springs and steel feed lips.
I use the tactical bolt and it quite controllable. Thinking about moving to the speed bolt. What model suppressor do you have? The steel ones are quite heavy as I have an AWC 3-lug job.
IMBLITZVT
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I have all three bolts... if you want to test any, just let me know and I will make sure to bring them. I just got the DF speed bolt... I figured I better get them while I can.
I am not one to worry about weight. A BAR is fine... that FND is getting heavy! My MG08/15 is heavy!
Yeah I think the MP5 is just an all around better gun. Closed bolt is nice. Well made... I mean its just about the perfect sub gun. I think the biggest Max negative is the mags.
I am not rushing mag reloads so the lack of a stop is ok with me. However I do have a welder (spot and Tig). Plus I can sandblast and repark myself which makes it easy.
I am not one to worry about weight. A BAR is fine... that FND is getting heavy! My MG08/15 is heavy!
Yeah I think the MP5 is just an all around better gun. Closed bolt is nice. Well made... I mean its just about the perfect sub gun. I think the biggest Max negative is the mags.
I am not rushing mag reloads so the lack of a stop is ok with me. However I do have a welder (spot and Tig). Plus I can sandblast and repark myself which makes it easy.
The MP5 is a beautiful gun but its cost and is at least five times that of a MAC and the benefits are negligible.
The mags are, without a doubt, the biggest negative. For some reason, no one has ever bothered to get in the business of making quality steel mags.
I've shot MP5s and while I could have purchased one, I decided I'd rather have a MAX-11 and an M-16 over an MP5.
IMBLITZVT
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No doubt! If the guns were priced at the Non-government restricted rate... say $500 for the M11 and $1500-$2000 for the MP5, I would go for the MP5. However you are correct that I don't think the MP5 is worth the price of a M16 more! However if it were priced about the same as the Uzi, I would probably go for the MP5.
I am waiting on a MG08/15 transfer and might be able to work out a deal for a MG08. I think a M16 will the next on the list. Now if we could just get Lage to take over that Shrike conversion!!!
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That's actually the first "upgraded" MAC I've ever seen that I thought looked cool. I may have to go down the same road if I decide to buy a machine gun some day. 
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