GAO Tries to Buy Guns Illegaly over the Internet...Fails
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It took a few clicks to get through the typical GAO boilerplate, but I was able to get to the meat of the actual study GAO performed. It showed the FFL system set up by the Gun Control Act of 1968 actually works as intended, even with a technological wrinkle that was never anticipated -- the Internet. They created 5 scenarios of individuals with various prohibitions that would keep them from buying guns, from previous felons, to renouncing their citizenship. In 72 attempts, not one "deal" was successfully completed by the entity (individual or business) that was listing the firearm for sale. It proves that legitimate dealers and individuals selling guns actually want to, and are, following the law! That's a rather amazing story...but, sadly, of course, it will be ignored....because guns!
Interestingly, the head of the House committee that requested the study was our very own Elijah Cummings. I wonder when we'll be seeing him on a podium pointing to the success of the the FFL program at "keeping guns off the street"? I won't be holding my breath.
JoeR
We should bombard that old sh!thead's office with "congratulatory" phone calls and faxes:
(202) 225-4741
Fax: (202) 225-3178
Hours: M-F 8:30 AM - 5:30 PM EST
My question would be, did they not ship because of scamming or because the shipper (if it was an FFL) found out they were prohibited?
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whistlersmother
Peace through strength
The chart doesn't say, maybe it's in the report.
If scammed, it was OUR money GOA wasted. Well, the whole d*mned report is a waste.
Upthread mentioned we should call Milkdud's office asking about the loopholes he found...
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Beancounter
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One might be able to pay for a gun over the internet, but until Star Trek transporter technology becomes reality, one cannot obtain a gun over the internet.
The laws have not kept pace with technology. With instant federal background checks I should be able to buy any firearm in any state. It would be my responsibility to comply with local laws.
If I can pass a federal background check, I probably comply with local laws.
The laws have not kept pace with technology. With instant federal background checks I should be able to buy any firearm in any state. It would be my responsibility to comply with local laws.
If I can pass a federal background check, I probably comply with local laws.
I had read an article about this earlier today and was wondering if, by chance, any of our IPs were possibly contacted in this operation.
You forget with the advent of inexpensive metal titanium 3-D printing metal machines, you can just buy the file, transmit though the interwebs and make your own. (Sarcasm)
Audits that validate aren't a waste of time and money if they're done judiciously. Manufacturers have to pull a product off the assembly line for QA purposes...same idea here. This audit is particularly good because it shows the system works, and we don't need more, tighter laws. It's nice that the 2A community has something to point at and declare victory. Imagine what would be happening if the results of the audit were different.
GAO isn't law enforcement. In the report, they say they referred incidents of criminality to the appropriate enforcement authorities.
The report total 37 pages, including cover pages, table of contents, and a lot of white space on pages throughout. It's a quick read.
I agree that this was a worthwhile exercise for the GAO to undertake. However, it's still disappointing to me, but not surprising, that the report hasn't gotten any traction with the mainstream media. Your point is absolutely correct...if it had gone the other way, Cummings and Warren would be shouting it from the rooftops.
JoeR
Even if they weren't scammed, it's our money the GOA wasted.
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THAT is guaranteed! Our side better figure out how to use our good news.
platoonDaddy
Ultimate Member
Note: ur link is to an article on romney
But they did manage to purchase two illegal off the dark web.
On the dark web, GAO agents successfully purchased two guns illegally, as the serial numbers on the weapons were “obliterated” and “shipped across state lines.” But in the attempt to purchase, the GAO agents “did not disclose any information indicating they were prohibited from possessing a firearm.”
Cummings, Warren and Schatz did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment on the GAO’s findings.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/08/dem-ordered-study-to-expose-illegal-online-gun-sales-backfires.html
oops.fixed
but it does destroy their argument that on line purchase of guns is easy to do. Most dark web transactions involve illicit activity, not law abiding citizens.
ravens52
Active Member
Zero for 72 in a 2 1/2 year study. The Dem's sure know how to waste taxpayes money.
All they need to do is make the dark web illegal.
I'm surprised nobody thought of that yet.
platoonDaddy
Ultimate Member
Not to hijack the thread: what is the difference between dark & deep web?
I have no idea
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