I would like to take you up on your offer, if it's open to others. Where do you shoot?
AR15 Trigger Upgrade - Whats your preference?
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I would like to take you up on your offer, if it's open to others. Where do you shoot?
iHasCrabs
Ultimate Member
Sure...I'll probably be doing most of my shooting this summer at Hap Baker
smores
Creepy-Ass Cracker
Geissele. The ALGs are also excellent. I don't think the RRA 2-stage triggers are bad, but I don't have any experience shooting them. Really, it's rather I've only heard good things from those who have them.
I'm shopping a Geissele Hi-Speed for a precision build, and probably an ACT for the recce build.
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I'm shopping a Geissele Hi-Speed for a precision build, and probably an ACT for the recce build.
Si vis pacem para bellum
follow me @DiscipleofJMB - GO PENS!
SergeantEvil
Active Member
- Jul 9, 2012
- 239
Wilson Combat. Stop by 2A and you can try before you buy.
BenL
John Galt Speaking.
For the money, RRNM triggers are decent. If you have more to spend, the Wilson Combats are pretty tough to beat.
sailskidrive
Legalize the Constitution
^^^^ this.
I own CMC, Wilson Combat, Timney, RRA, and Spikes enhanced. The two stage Wilson is my new favorite. I used to really like the RRA two stae triggers, but now they feel mushy to me.
Nemesis
Russian Grizzly Adams
so far im really liking my ACT np3'd triggers with jp yellow springs and kns antiroll pins along with a set screw in the grip screw hole to take out the slight bit of take up...very smooth, crisp and light triggers
ObsceneJesster
Ultimate Member
- Jan 31, 2011
- 2,958
I think the trigger upgrade would depend on what you want the rifle for. Precision target shooting or a Battle/SHTF rifle.
Nemesis
Russian Grizzly Adams
yea this is very true...i wouldnt want a 3# super match trigger on a rifle i plan on running and firing on the move with...thats just begging for a AD
I'm at 2A at least once a week. I bought the BRO billet upper & lower set from Mark. I'll take a look at the Wilson's next time I'm there. Mark mentioned to me that he had them but I wanted to do a little more research first and get feedback from those who've tried them. I dry fired one a couple times years ago and liked it but never shot with one at the range.
As far as what the build will be, midrange 16" midlength. Leaning towards a 1-4x optic. Possibly a Vortex Viper PST 1-4x MRAD. The tough part about the trigger is that I want something in the middle of precision & combat.
ObsceneJesster
Ultimate Member
- Jan 31, 2011
- 2,958
Then I would recommend a single stage between 4 and 5 pounds. Anything less than 4 is asking for trouble especially if you plan on shooting it on the move.
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Nemesis
Russian Grizzly Adams
i agree with jester, the setup im using is right around 4# give or take 1/4#...it also wont break the bank either, fcg is $65 and the springs are only like $10 (iirc, which im probably off)...the kns pins and set screw are optional, but neither is expensive and both have a benefit
photoracer
Competition Shooter
Well for 3-gun most shooters use a trigger with a fast reset and around 3-3.5#. That means either the Geissele S3G, AT AR-Gold, Wilson 3G, or the JP w/speed hammer. For something like precision shooting you want something down in the 1-2# range. For 3-gun I use the S3G but for precision I use an RRA NM w/light springs in it. A 1-4# adjustable drop in from CMC, Timney or Jard would be optimum for that kind of use in my book.
On my trigger gauge my S3G shows 2.5# and I have tried one in one of my AR15-22 with the light springs for a measured pull of 1.25#. I shot it in a couple of speed matches and had a pro level shooter try it and he thought it was insanely fast. But I swapped back to the OEM springs because I did not want to get DQ'd for an AD. Your results may vary.
clandestine
AR-15 Savant
If you are not used to a light single stage trigger you WILL get kicked off a range with a shot per second rule. Light triggers fired from a non experienced shooter will bump fire. Stay at 4-5# if you are not sure.
Carrying a light trigger on a carbine is perfectly safe if the gun is setup properly and the safety functions. Accidents happen when the safety is left OFF when it should be ON.
For a Single Stage trigger avoid all of the fancy crap made by Wilson, Jard, CMC, Gold, Jewel, Timney, etc.....they are junk. They realky are. They are crap, Honestly. Take the single stage Milspec trigger to a GOOD AR Smith and have them rework it. They can reliably give you a 4# Trigger for about $75-$95.00.
For 2 Stage you can cheap out and get a RRA but they are marginal for durability. I suggest Geissele. I like the SSA-E for ALL AR applications from Carbine to DMR setups.They won't bump in the hands of an inexperienced shooter and they are SAFE, Durable, and don't need tuning if you have an In-Spec Lower. Use your safety when the weapon isn't being brought up on target and you'll never have an AD/ND.
I don't like the adjustable Geissele Triggers. Adjustments in a trigger are prone to shoot lose.
Carrying a light trigger on a carbine is perfectly safe if the gun is setup properly and the safety functions. Accidents happen when the safety is left OFF when it should be ON.
For a Single Stage trigger avoid all of the fancy crap made by Wilson, Jard, CMC, Gold, Jewel, Timney, etc.....they are junk. They realky are. They are crap, Honestly. Take the single stage Milspec trigger to a GOOD AR Smith and have them rework it. They can reliably give you a 4# Trigger for about $75-$95.00.
For 2 Stage you can cheap out and get a RRA but they are marginal for durability. I suggest Geissele. I like the SSA-E for ALL AR applications from Carbine to DMR setups.They won't bump in the hands of an inexperienced shooter and they are SAFE, Durable, and don't need tuning if you have an In-Spec Lower. Use your safety when the weapon isn't being brought up on target and you'll never have an AD/ND.
I don't like the adjustable Geissele Triggers. Adjustments in a trigger are prone to shoot lose.
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- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
I agree... I have two builds with milspec trigger parts that are really nice! JP spring kit and some tlc and you can have a great trigger from the standard lpk parts.
orangecrush
Active Member
One of mine has a Geissele ssa-e and the other has the Geissele ssa. Only reason I have not changed the the other three ar triggers is funds.
- Feb 17, 2011
- 14,024
A cheap upgrade would be a NiB single stage, the next step would be a milspec worked over by a smith but still single stage, then you get into more expensive with many of the drop in 2 stage type triggers.
I really wished someone made a nice skeletonized regular trigger for the AR
I really wished someone made a nice skeletonized regular trigger for the AR
huesmann
n00b
SSA-E here.
Another vote for Geissele.
I have a Hi Speed National Match DMR for mine.
The RRA National Match I have is also pretty decent, though not quite up to the SSA-E.
