10mm RIA 1911 won't feed.

AssMan · Jun 1, 2015

I'll start by saying that this appears to be a well made gun.

After cleaning and lubricating, I finally got out to the range. Tried to run a box of 180gn American Eagle through it (as an aside, AE ammo in this caliber is the dirtiest crap I've ever shot and won't buy it again) and I got a FTF about every third round. Looked like the round was nosing into the ramp and just gets caught before the round can go up the ramp and into battery.

I'm thinking it's one of three things (but looking for guidance):

1) ammo was underpowered and the slide was not forced back fully

2) magazine problems. It only came with one so I can't compare.

3) recoil spring is too weak, returning the slide to battery too quickly? Is this even possible?

Any insight is appreciated. Thanks!

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Mark75H · Jun 1, 2015

(1) Try different ammo & magazine

(2) Lifetime warranty. Send it back to be repaired.

erwos · Jun 1, 2015

Their support guys out in NV have a good reputation. Don't screw with it, just get warranty service on it.

That said, it sounds like a feed ramp angle or magazine issue. *shrugs*

vinjet700 · Jun 1, 2015

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http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=169441

jkeiler · Jun 1, 2015

I bought an 1911 RIA .45 tactical in November. Also chronic FTF problems, and sometimes a failure to go into battery, with all different types of ammo, etc. Not as bad as you are experiencing but on the order of every 50 rounds or so. Put about 800 rounds through it--to see if it was a breaking-in thing.

I contacted them and sent it in for repair a month ago. Not hard to do, but call them, don't try to do it online--you will get nowhere. They say it is a 4-6 week wait, so hopefully I'll have mine back soon and it will run correctly.

Like yours, mine appeared to be a very nice looking well-made gun for the price, shot very accurately, but was very unreliable.

Blaster229 · Jun 1, 2015

vinjet700 said:
Paging Trikshot....

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=169441

This is what I am doing when I get my next 1911.

RIA makes a good gun. However, for just a range gun, sure send it back to them to iron out the kinks. If one is going to be used for any self defense whatsoever, I would invest some money and get John to do the work.

jimbobborg · Jun 1, 2015

My RIA had the same problem with the mag it came with. Wilson Combat mags fixed that problem. My Kimber 10mm had issues with stock Kimber mags, Chip McCormick mags fixed that problem.

Magnumite · Jun 1, 2015

Mags may be a good idea. The 10mm round is longer than the 45 ACP and causes some geometry issues during feeding. The presentation of the round during cycling may be improved with a different design mag or mags held higher as suggested.

Nose dive if the nose of the bullet is actually against the feedramp. The stack of the bullets causes a greater required force to strip the bullet. The resistance to resisting the stripping action is greater than the force required to tilt the cartridge stack in the magazine. This is the nose dive. Two ways to approach this...a stronger mag spring should help keep the stack from tilting. Also a high shelf magazine catch from EGW would help. I've had guns go from excellent feed to jamb-o-matics when trying differing mag catches for the sake of experimentation. Ended up the jamb inducing catches held the magazine lower in the mag well.

There may be a feedramp angle/depth issue. The feedramp should extend not quite to the bottom of the frame cut out for the slide stop hold open stud. Any attention here is best left to a smith or in this case, RIA.

lee2 · Jun 1, 2015

it may need the ramp buffed a bit.

AssMan · Jun 1, 2015

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to load up some dummy rounds and see it there's anything obvious.

Then try mags.

If that fails, I'll send it back.

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jimbobborg · Jun 1, 2015

You're going to want more mags anyway

photoracer · Jun 1, 2015

Even if you don't shoot matches with it you want to own 3-5 reliable mags, and I consider 3 to be the absolute minimum. Just remember with a single stack in a gunfight it takes 2 SS mags to equal 1 Glock mag in capacity.

dist1646 · Jun 1, 2015

photoracer said:
Even if you don't shoot matches with it you want to own 3-5 reliable mags, and I consider 3 to be the absolute minimum. Just remember with a single stack in a gunfight it takes 2 SS mags to equal 1 Glock mag in capacity.

Too bad someone doesn't make a Glock/1911 hybrid.

AssMan · Jun 1, 2015

Yeah, I tried to buy mags over the weekend, but the WC 10mm mags are out of stock everywhere.

I may just try some .45 mags in the interim as many people claim they work well.

ken792 · Jun 1, 2015

snallygaster said:
Yeah, I tried to buy mags over the weekend, but the WC 10mm mags are out of stock everywhere.

I may just try some .45 mags in the interim as many people claim they work well.

The .45 mags may work, but you'll likely have issues activating the slide stop or chambering the last round.

clandestine · Jun 1, 2015

It's almost impossible to diagnose without more details. Heres my advice.

1) DON'T let anyone in that gun.
2) YOU stay out of the gun.
3) Unless you send it back to RIA, see #1. This rule does not apply to Trikshot or a REPUTABLE Smith. Remember any work not done by RIA will void the warranty, and if there's something wrong, you won't get it fixed for free if someone else, no matter how good they are.
4) Lube the crap out of that gun. Don't use baby seal tears, or frog jizz. Just use some oil, the more the merrier, it may get on your shooting glasses.
5) Try different ammo.
6) Buy good mags made for a 10mm. Don't go cheap.

Do 4, 5, and 6 and the problem may go away.

trikshot · Jun 1, 2015

snallygaster said:
Yeah, I tried to buy mags over the weekend, but the WC 10mm mags are out of stock everywhere.

I may just try some .45 mags in the interim as many people claim they work well.

Everyone's advice is very sensible. Let me add that I will be meeting a customer at Freestate Gun Range this Wednesday, 6/3/15, at 2 PM. If you can meet me there at 3:30 PM, I can check things out for you and suggest what the issue might be that is causing your FTF problem. There will be no charge to you (Freebie!!!). Bring about 15 rds of ammo and I'll bring some. I can shoot your weapon and then talk with you. Please let me know by tomorrow evening (via PM) if you can make it Wednesday at 3:30 PM. I do suspect that RIA can fix this issue under warranty, which is the best way to go. If they can't fix, then give me a call.
John (Trikshot)

AssMan · Jun 1, 2015

trikshot said:
Everyone's advice is very sensible. Let me add that I will be meeting a customer at Freestate Gun Range this Wednesday, 6/3/15, at 2 PM. If you can meet me there at 3:30 PM, I can check things out for you and suggest what the issue might be that is causing your FTF problem. There will be no charge to you (Freebie!!!). Bring about 15 rds of ammo and I'll bring some. I can shoot your weapon and then talk with you. Please let me know by tomorrow evening (via PM) if you can make it Wednesday at 3:30 PM. I do suspect that RIA can fix this issue under warranty, which is the best way to go. If they can't fix, then give me a call.

John (Trikshot)

An incredibly generous offer, and one I wish I could take advantage of, but alas, I will be in meetings in Herndon at that time

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Blaster229 · Jun 1, 2015

snallygaster said:
An incredibly generous offer, and one I wish I could take advantage of, but alas, I will be in meetings in Herndon at that time

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Leave it at freestate if they'll hold on to it for you.

Vile Shadow · Jun 3, 2015

I'm having the same issue with my Hardballer. Might hafta let this Trikshot feller have a look at it.

10mm RIA 1911 won't feed.

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