G&S criteria met?

G8tor · Aug 29, 2018

I applied for my carry permit about a month or so ago and one of my references told me they had been interviewed. I took this to mean I had at least preliminarily satisfied the G&S requirement, otherwise why would they bother even interviewing anyone? Am I reading too much into it?

Rab1515 · Aug 29, 2018

They interview reference, at least they are supposed to. Msp has been cought before not interviewing, though.

danb · Aug 29, 2018

They are going to go through the whole process regardless, in case you want to appeal.

Occam · Aug 29, 2018

As I recall, my interviewer (who also talked to my references and my wife) essentially described his role as fact-finder, not decision-maker. He appends his findings to the application, and then all of that goes up to the licensing division. In my case, THOSE guys had another requirement for me as they weighed my goodness and my sufficiency. So, as much as I'd like to say that your reference(s) hearing from them means you're over that hurdle, it's probably not there yet. Good luck!

G8tor · Aug 30, 2018

Thanks all. Appreciate the insight.

mxrider · Aug 30, 2018

Yea, the fact that your reference was interviewed, doesn't give any indication one way or another.

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G8tor · Aug 30, 2018

Well crap, I was hoping to use that as an excuse to buy my carry piece, but I guess it will have to wait a bit.

Occam · Aug 30, 2018

Not that I can imagine how it bears on the investigation, but my interviewer did ask what I’d be carrying. It’s an odd question when you think about it, but he was asking the Vulcan Mind-Meld eye contact when he asked, so presume if someone says, “I was thinking of my AR pistol under a trench coat” or “A phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range” it gives them something else about your state of mind. What did you qualify with during your class? I used a pistol I’ll likely never carry, not that it matters.

Stoveman · Aug 30, 2018

Occam said:
Not that I can imagine how it bears on the investigation, but my interviewer did ask what I’d be carrying. It’s an odd question when you think about it, but he was asking the Vulcan Mind-Meld eye contact when he asked, so presume if someone says, “I was thinking of my AR pistol under a trench coat” or “A phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range” it gives them something else about your state of mind. What did you qualify with during your class? I used a pistol I’ll likely never carry, not that it matters.

It's one of the questions on the list. When I was asked I told the investigator that I hadn't decided yet and that I would cross that bridge when I had permit in hand. A polite nunya effing business....

2112rws · Aug 30, 2018

Sent in my wear and carry renewal about two weeks ago. Anybody done one recently and how long did it take to get back?

G8tor · Aug 30, 2018

Stoveman said:
It's one of the questions on the list. When I was asked I told the investigator that I hadn't decided yet and that I would cross that bridge when I had permit in hand. A polite nunya effing business....

I will probably use a similar approach. At this point it would be the truth anyway. I`m exempt from the training, but my main home defense gun is an xd in .45. It`s the one I shoot the most, but just feels a bit too bulky for CC. Im on the fence between a glock 19 or a revolver in .357. Then again, I may just get both.

Stoveman · Aug 30, 2018

2112rws said:
Sent in my wear and carry renewal about two weeks ago. Anybody done one recently and how long did it take to get back?

Renewals are running ~30 days.

dblas · Aug 30, 2018

Stoveman said:
It's one of the questions on the list. When I was asked I told the investigator that I hadn't decided yet and that I would cross that bridge when I had permit in hand. A polite nunya effing business....

I kinda of did the same thing with a twist, I asked them what they recommended for carry.

G8tor · Aug 30, 2018

2112rws said:
Sent in my wear and carry renewal about two weeks ago. Anybody done one recently and how long did it take to get back?

This is another thing that`s been on my mind. IF I am approved, the initial permit is only for two years, correct? So I`d only be looking at about 18 months or so of freedom before I`d have to get the ball rolling on renewal.

Occam · Aug 30, 2018

I’ve probably mentioned this before, but my W&C instructor made a dubious claim that you have to qualify with either a pistol or revolver, and carry the class of handgun you qualified with. I haven’t come across anything formal that confirms what I suspect is another manifestation of BGOS.

G8tor · Aug 30, 2018

Occam said:
I’ve probably mentioned this before, but my W&C instructor made a dubious claim that you have to qualify with either a pistol or revolver, and carry the class of handgun you qualified with. I haven’t come across anything formal that confirms what I suspect is another manifestation of BGOS.

Well....the hunter safety course will exempt you from the training requirement and it only requires you to shoot one round from a long gun. My class had a choice between a 20 gauge and a .22. Zero bearing on one's ability to effectively use any handgun.

G8tor · Aug 30, 2018

It's unfortunate that people put out misinformation like that.

danb · Aug 30, 2018

G8tor said:
Well....the hunter safety course will exempt you from the training requirement and it only requires you to shoot one round from a long gun. My class had a choice between a 20 gauge and a .22. Zero bearing on one's ability to effectively use any handgun.

W&C = Carry permit <> HQl

the hunter safety course will exempt you from the training requirement... for the HQL, not W&C

Stoveman · Aug 30, 2018

Occam said:
I’ve probably mentioned this before, but my W&C instructor made a dubious claim that you have to qualify with either a pistol or revolver, and carry the class of handgun you qualified with. I haven’t come across anything formal that confirms what I suspect is another manifestation of BGOS.

Maybe your instructor was a recent transplant from TX where this is actually a thing, or he's just full of shyt.

Occam · Aug 30, 2018

But, you’re still on the hook for the 16 hours of class time, and the 8 hours on renewal, right? I don’t think hunter safety gets you around that for W&C.

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