Yugo M57 Tokarev hammer drops with slide

TargetGrade · Oct 11, 2017

budman93 said:
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ppr70

https://ammoseek.com/ammo/7.62x25mm-tokarev

classicfirearms.com

Just ordered 3 boxes of 72 Romanian surplus....

Item Sku Qty Subtotal
Romanian 7.62x25 Ammunition, Brass, Berdan, 1980's Production, Sure Fire - 72rd Box AMMROM-762x25-72BOX 3 $59.97
Subtotal $59.97
Shipping & Handling $10.63
Grand Total $70.60

It may be corrosive but that's OK, I have hot soapy water and oil! :thumbsup:

K-43 · Oct 12, 2017

I load my own with 92 grain poly coated bullets from King's Shooter Supply. Works out to about 17 cents each since I make cases from 223 range pickups. Extra work, but using a brass catcher I don't have to make cases often.
One of my TTs needed a new extractor spring to extract reliably. That's all I've had to do besides clean and lube.

tallen702 · Oct 12, 2017

Red army standard makes 7.62tok and it sells cheap. Talking $14/50 most places.

budman93 · Oct 12, 2017

tallen702 said:
Red army standard makes 7.62tok and it sells cheap. Talking $14/50 most places.

I haven't seen any of that brand for less than $18/50

tallen702 · Oct 13, 2017

budman93 said:
I haven't seen any of that brand for less than $18/50

Yeesh, I paid $14/box at the Cabella's in Charleston, WV earlier this year. They always have cheap .32ACP in stock as well.

budman93 · Oct 17, 2017

tallen702 said:
Yeesh, I paid $14/box at the Cabella's in Charleston, WV earlier this year. They always have cheap .32ACP in stock as well.

20.99 Per 50 at Cabelas
http://www.cabelas.com/product/shoo...gun-ammunition-ndash-per/2289269.uts?slotId=3

knastera · Oct 17, 2017

TargetGrade said:
classicfirearms.com

Just ordered 3 boxes of 72 Romanian surplus....

Item Sku Qty Subtotal

Romanian 7.62x25 Ammunition, Brass, Berdan, 1980's Production, Sure Fire - 72rd Box AMMROM-762x25-72BOX 3 $59.97

Subtotal $59.97

Shipping & Handling $10.63

Grand Total $70.60

It may be corrosive but that's OK, I have hot soapy water and oil!

Being a squirt bottle of Windex to the range. Ammonia neutralizes the corrosive residue.

TargetGrade · Oct 17, 2017

knastera said:
Being a squirt bottle of Windex to the range. Ammonia neutralizes the corrosive residue.

Good thought BUT first they have to ship it first. :mad54:

Emails and calls finally got a reply today saying they're backed up but it's being processed. :rolleyes:

Communication people, COMMUNICATION and leave your bible quotes out of it. When I see that sort of thing I wonder if they're scam artist or genuine.

knastera · Oct 17, 2017

TargetGrade said:
Good thought BUT first they have to ship it first. Emails and calls finally got a reply today saying they're backed up but it's being processed. Communication people, COMMUNICATION and leave your bible quotes out of it. When I see that sort of thing I wonder if they're scam artist or genuine.

I've made several purchases from Classic (including my Romanian Tok). Never had a problem.

K-43 · Oct 17, 2017

knastera said:
Being a squirt bottle of Windex to the range. Ammonia neutralizes the corrosive residue.

Ammonia doesn't "neutralize" corrosive primer residue. The water in Windex dissolves and suspends it and flushes it out. Any soap and water solution will work, and many are better than ammonia solutions at cleaning the salts out of a gun.

TargetGrade · Oct 17, 2017

knastera said:
I've made several purchases from Classic (including my Romanian Tok). Never had a problem.

They claim they're backed up and working OT... maybe so, maybe not, 6 days so far, in my world that's ******** to not even have shipped it yet. :rolleyes:

Yeaaaaaa, I got a tracking number on the 18th, not shipped but it's a start I guess! Meanwhile back to the wait music....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5of9pLlm9PM

knastera · Oct 17, 2017

K-43 said:
Ammonia doesn't "neutralize" corrosive primer residue. The water in Windex dissolves and suspends it and flushes it out. Any soap and water solution will work, and many are better than ammonia solutions at cleaning the salts out of a gun.

Interesting. I was told it neutralized it. It made sense because Mosins were issued with a two part can that contained an alkali solution and oil. Then again, I'm not a chemist.
All I know is my Mosin rifle and my Nagant revolver never corroded.

tallen702 · Oct 18, 2017

knastera said:
Interesting. I was told it neutralized it. It made sense because Mosins were issued with a two part can that contained an alkali solution and oil. Then again, I'm not a chemist.
All I know is my Mosin rifle and my Nagant revolver never corroded.

Nope, doesn't neutralize. The water is what does it. However, the ammonia does help as it's a surfactant which will work lift the corrosive salts out of pitting and the lands and grooves where plain water wouldn't necessarily reach in effective quantities to do the job. It doesn't dissolve it but does act as a release agent (which is what it does in your laundry and on your windows). Certain Windex products no longer contain ammonia BTW. None the less, hot, soapy water works the best.

knastera · Oct 18, 2017

tallen702 said:
Nope, doesn't neutralize. The water is what does it. However, the ammonia does help as it's a surfactant which will work lift the corrosive salts out of pitting and the lands and grooves where plain water wouldn't necessarily reach in effective quantities to do the job. It doesn't dissolve it but does act as a release agent (which is what it does in your laundry and on your windows). Certain Windex products no longer contain ammonia BTW. None the less, hot, soapy water works the best.

Thanks for the explanation. It's nice to understand how things work.

K-43 · Oct 18, 2017

knastera said:
Thanks for the explanation. It's nice to understand how things work.

I believed Windex "neutralized" the salts for years too. A chemist at work told me it is the water, the Ammonia is just a detergent. I was like: "Really? But everyone says..." And he responded that he was a chemist, "everyone" was not. :lol2:

Now I use dish soap or Simple Green and hot water, followed by regular bore cleaner and oil. The main thing is water, and soaps help unbind the salts from the steel, or something like that. I'm not a chemist.
Lots of good detergent with water combos. Just be aware some detergents corrode aluminum. like "Purple" cleaners and regular Simple Green.

toolness1 · Oct 28, 2017

K-43 said:
I believed Windex "neutralized" the salts for years too. A chemist at work told me it is the water, the Ammonia is just a detergent. I was like: "Really? But everyone says..." And he responded that he was a chemist, "everyone" was not.
Now I use dish soap or Simple Green and hot water, followed by regular bore cleaner and oil. The main thing is water, and soaps help unbind the salts from the steel, or something like that. I'm not a chemist.
Lots of good detergent with water combos. Just be aware some detergents corrode aluminum. like "Purple" cleaners and regular Simple Green.

Current Windex formulas don't even contain Ammonia according to their MSDS sheets.

But it does work well, and I still use it and I have been a chem lab tech for 17 years.

The surfactants seem to help, and I like that it evaporates faster than just water, or soapy water.

Ammonia isn't needed and could actually harm your gun if you use strong solution and leave it sit.

Current windex ingredients:
2-Butoxyethanol
Ethylene glycol hexyl ether
Isopropyl Alcohol
Water

toolness1 · Oct 28, 2017

TargetGrade said:
The sights are worse than the "last ditch" Arisakas. Might as well glue sticks in a V for rear sight.

I told my dad how much I loved the Tokarev variants, the 7.62x25 cartridge, and the CZ vz. 52. He bought a Yugo M57, Romanian TTC, and a CZ.

He couldn't get them to shoot very well at all. He slugged the Romanian and it slugged at .313...The others were tighter, but still left a lot to be desired with commercial ammo.

He started reloading for them and had the same results until he got some Sierra .312 90gr JHC and they all love that bullet. He's got them shooting great now, even the Romanian which couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with commercial ammo.

TargetGrade · Oct 28, 2017

toolness1 said:
I told my dad how much I loved the Tokarev variants, the 7.62x25 cartridge, and the CZ vz. 52. He bought a Yugo M57, Romanian TTC, and a CZ.

He couldn't get them to shoot very well at all. He slugged the Romanian and it slugged at .313...The others were tighter, but still left a lot to be desired with commercial ammo.

He started reloading for them and had the same results until he got some Sierra .312 90gr JHC and they all love that bullet. He's got them shooting great now, even the Romanian which couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with commercial ammo.

Ammo came so I'm happy, using the PPU ammo it's quite a cartridge... more penetration over the Luger. I don't need it but it's a good home protection weapon.

toolness1 · Oct 28, 2017

TargetGrade said:
Ammo came so I'm happy, using the PPU ammo it's quite a cartridge... more penetration over the Luger. I don't need it but it's a good home protection weapon.

Still getting crap accuracy though?

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