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  • KIBarrister

    Opinionated Libertarian
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 10, 2013
    3,923
    Kent Island/Centreville
    She has as much right to use her property as he does on his. Are you saying she can’t take a walk on her own property because her neighbor wants to hunt his property? That’s crazy if someone can tell me I can’t take a walk on my own property. It’s not like she’s banging a pot with a spoon or blasting a radio. I actually think she could listen to a radio there or take a phone call there if she wanted to. As long as she’s not violating any noise ordinances. I can’t get a neighbor to stop playing music REALLY loud. I sure don’t see how the cops are going to tell her not to do what she’s doing.

    She does have the right to use her property. But, if her conduct on her property amounts to harassment (or the now watered down version of stalking) a peace order can be properly obtained. I have done this a few times for clients. OP doesn't give enough information to say one way or the other, but the indication I get from his current post (together with his prior post on a related topic with the same number) is that he could properly apply both statutes to this neighbor. I'm not saying I would advise him to do so; that would take a much more thorough discussion of particulars both addressed and unaddressed in this thread.
     

    tallen702

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 3, 2012
    5,119
    In the boonies of MoCo
    Other places I've been that are more rural its more like 2 or 3:1 of good people to karens (for Maryland. It is my understanding other places aren't nearly so bad).

    My experience growing up in WV was that horse folk were pretty amenable and laid back. MD was a different experience and has continued to be for my time here.

    In WV, people who own horses either
    • Live in the countryside and have acres upon acres that they own which they ride on
    • Live in the city/suburbs and keep their horses at a stable which owns acres upon acres of land where they either ride in a ring or trail ride.

    Those that live in the country know that deer season means folks will be in the woods and they respect that. They'll stick to heavily traveled trails in "safe zones" of state and federal lands if they're not riding on their own land, or just ride in rings or around their property until the season is over.

    What gets me here in MD, is that there are places like Little Bennet Regional Park which are really and truly set up for horses. They have horse camping areas, horse trailer parking, and multiple horse access points around the property, but folks will not go there or other horse-friendly areas in the region, and instead go to WMAs or NRMAs to ride during hunting season and prevent hunters from being able to Sunday hunt on what are, first and foremost, game lands.
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,730
    My experience growing up in WV was that horse folk were pretty amenable and laid back. MD was a different experience and has continued to be for my time here.

    In WV, people who own horses either
    • Live in the countryside and have acres upon acres that they own which they ride on
    • Live in the city/suburbs and keep their horses at a stable which owns acres upon acres of land where they either ride in a ring or trail ride.

    Those that live in the country know that deer season means folks will be in the woods and they respect that. They'll stick to heavily traveled trails in "safe zones" of state and federal lands if they're not riding on their own land, or just ride in rings or around their property until the season is over.

    What gets me here in MD, is that there are places like Little Bennet Regional Park which are really and truly set up for horses. They have horse camping areas, horse trailer parking, and multiple horse access points around the property, but folks will not go there or other horse-friendly areas in the region, and instead go to WMAs or NRMAs to ride during hunting season and prevent hunters from being able to Sunday hunt on what are, first and foremost, game lands.

    Yup. To me the best is the ban on hunting on private land on Sundays.

    Excuse me? Why should your horse prevent me from using MY land. I ain't on your property or shooting guns on to your land.

    I can see SOME excuse for public lands as they are (almost, a few WMA are CLOSED on legal hunting days for all uses except hunting) all mixed use.

    But private, that one pisses me the hell off. So your quiet enjoyment is ruined by me sitting in a stand or blind on my property with a crossbow on a Sunday? If there is any remote danger to you or your horse, that would mean you are currently trespassing on my property.
     
    May 13, 2005
    2,770
    I walk my property line about 4-5 times a week. It is what it is. Not much you can do other than try and be polite until she crosses the legal line, which is easy to show with good surveillance. My neighbor has a year round feeder set up and a ground blind about 40ft from my line. Only issue I ever had was when the ground blind was obviously aimed towards my property.

    Luckily, one morning as I was walking back up the property he was walking down to check his cams. We had a good talk. He admired the Swiss rifle slung over my shoulder, and I admired the German pistol on his hip. I politely asked him which way he was shooting and we walked back down and I helped him reorient his blind. Nice to have good neighbors.
     

    MigraineMan

    Defenestration Specialist
    Jun 9, 2011
    19,273
    Frederick County
    Time to go sit in a tree near the property line.
     

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    G O B

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 17, 2007
    1,940
    Cen TX
    As a horse owner, and I am not the only one on the forum, I take umbrage at the characterizations of all horse owners as being nut cases. Just as I would for a group of horse owners saying all hunters were poachers who go around shooting up road signs. And every year there are some horses shot and the horsey press always makes a big deal out of it because sensationalism sell papers.

    If she was a reasonable horse owner I would suggest you talk to her and explain that you are not going to harm her horses and how your shots will be aimed away from her property etc. Then tell her when you will be hunting and that there could be gun shots in case she would like to turn out her horses in a different field so they don't get startled. You could also suggest she take your number to call you in case her horses get out and might be on your property so you can be extra careful.

    Now for a practical suggestion because you indicate she is not reasonable. Since you said she stole someones tree stand why don't you put up a tree stand near her property line, not to obvious but where she can see it, and put a hidden game cam to watch the stand. You said your property is posted so if you can get photographic proof of her trespassing and stealing you can turn it over to the police and she will be to busy defending herself to bother with your hunt.

    ^^^^^ This!
    I would USE her as a resource. Time her walks -set up a feeder timed for 30 mins before right close to the line, hide a cam in case she does something stupid. Let her drive the deer for you.
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,730
    It's not against the law to hunt naked on your own property.


    Is it?

    It might be. Just be careful if you are going to test it. It is certainly a crime to point your gun at someone, loaded or not. Also a crime to brandish arms (unless the other person is consenting anyway).
     

    teratos

    My hair is amazing
    MDS Supporter
    Patriot Picket
    Jan 22, 2009
    59,838
    Bel Air
    It's not against the law to hunt naked on your own property.


    Is it?
    It’s good to get sun on your balls. I can write a doctor’s note....

    Maybe it's time to set up some targets and have a MDS target shoot and BBQ

    I only have the one machine gun, but I’m up for it.
    Maybe make it a big bore shoot. My .375 H&H Mag is loud.
     

    2ndCharter

    Based dude w/ lovin' hands
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 19, 2011
    4,853
    Eastern Shore
    I've got a friend who lives out in Virginia horse country. This is polo and fox hunting land. He's equally at home with the JSOC guys he trains but he loves hanging at the uber-wealthy horse events.

    They are a completely different crowd than Mid-Shore horse people. I don't have much nice to say about most of them I've dealt with.
     

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