Century CETME banned

ST19AG_WGreymon · Apr 9, 2019

MSP just recently declared the Century CETME as banned. I wonder how this affects the C308 rifles which were also listed as banned but sold anyway. Thoughts?

Steve_Zissou · Apr 9, 2019

Oh schnikes, what does that mean for 80% builds?

Bertfish · Apr 9, 2019

The list is not legally binding

Oldcarjunkie · Apr 9, 2019

ST19AG_WGreymon said:
MSP just recently declared the Century CETME as banned. I wonder how this affects the C308 rifles which were also listed as banned but sold anyway. Thoughts?

Not the greatest rifles to be honest, i have one and a c308 before they decided to ban them , the c308 has a much better fit and finish that the cetme / G3 clone that Century did years ago

ST19AG_WGreymon · Apr 9, 2019

Oldcarjunkie said:
Not the greatest rifles to be honest, i have one and a c308 before they decided to ban them , the c308 has a much better fit and finish that the cetme / G3 clone that Century did years ago

I ended up getting a PTR91 right before FSA2013.

mopar92 · Apr 9, 2019

ST19AG_WGreymon said:
MSP just recently declared the Century CETME as banned. I wonder how this affects the C308 rifles which were also listed as banned but sold anyway. Thoughts?

1. The list is not legally binding. The MSP is a law enforcement agency not a law interpretation agency.

2. The MSP is wrong. They list it as a copy of an enumerated banned firearm. The firearm in question is the HK G3/91 and copies thereof. The G3 is a later variant of the CETME design, because the CETME is the parent design it cannot also be a copy of its own offspring so to say.

BeoBill · Apr 9, 2019

mopar92 said:
1. The list is not legally binding. The MSP is a law enforcement agency not a law interpretation agency.

2. The MSP is wrong. They list it as a copy of an enumerated banned firearm. The firearm in question is the HK G3/91 and copies thereof. The G3 is a later variant of the CETME design, because the CETME is the parent design it cannot also be a copy of its own offspring so to say.

Y'all forget their motto:

Arbitrary and Capricious

They bumble along, relying on the power structure to support their erroneous decisions.

Vile Shadow · Apr 10, 2019

mopar92 said:
1. The list is not legally binding. The MSP is a law enforcement agency not a law interpretation agency.

2. The MSP is wrong. They list it as a copy of an enumerated banned firearm. The firearm in question is the HK G3/91 and copies thereof. The G3 is a later variant of the CETME design, because the CETME is the parent design it cannot also be a copy of its own offspring so to say.

Absotively posilutely.

I got one of these. Bought it from Duffy’s. When I picked it up, Vince told me he tried to shove an HK bolt in it and it wouldn’t fit, so he kept sellin em.

RepublicOfFranklin · Apr 10, 2019

So glad they’re trying to keep us all safe from all those crimes committed with .308 battle rifles. I remember like it was yesterday, back in 2012 when all the gangs in Baltimore would tag buildings with “the CETME was better before 7.62NATO” crazy times.

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JTH20 · Apr 10, 2019

The MSP is just trying to protect us from the drunken monkeys at Century

IMBLITZVT · Apr 10, 2019

mopar92 said:
1. The list is not legally binding. The MSP is a law enforcement agency not a law interpretation agency.

2. The MSP is wrong. They list it as a copy of an enumerated banned firearm. The firearm in question is the HK G3/91 and copies thereof. The G3 is a later variant of the CETME design, because the CETME is the parent design it cannot also be a copy of its own offspring so to say.

Legally binding or not, MSP are the ones that arrest you...

Actually I don't think this is correct. The G3 was modeled off the CETME model B. This was developed into the G3. Afterward the Spanish further modified the CETME and adopted the Model C. So the CETME model C and the G3 both have the same parent, the CETME model B. Even if what you said was correct, good luck with that logic. For example they also have the "Chinese Dragunov" on the list. Well there is no such gun. The Russian's made a Dragunov. The Chinese made a Type 79 and Type 85. These guns are unlicensed copies of the Russian Dragunov, but there is no "Chinese Dragunov". How can you have a clone of a gun that never existed? My guess is that if you took this to court, the fact that they list a gun that was never made, would pretty much mean nothing is banned. However who is going to test it? Then we have MSP not getting the Bushmaster gun correct on this list. They think its referring to the company rather than the model of gun. This should be obvious as no law can ban a specific company.

The reason the CETME C is not a clone of the HK is because there is only limited parts interchangeability.

ST19AG_WGreymon · Apr 10, 2019

Not trying to ruffle any feathers here, just thought it was interesting that they banned it twice, as the C308 and more recently the CETME. I'm pretty sure someone would have argued the HK-91 parts interchangeability with them. :/

clandestine · Apr 10, 2019

I don't agree with this, but if the ATF can refine Bumpstocks as a M.G. and the courts uphold it, then the MSPLD will get away with saying what is legal or not in regards to MD Firearms.

Vile Shadow · Apr 10, 2019

IMBLITZVT said:
Legally binding or not, MSP are the ones that arrest you...

For unknowinly buyin a naughty listed boom stick in good faith from a licensed dealer in good standin?

Somehow I kinda doubt it. Might come and take it though....

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