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  • lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,678
    Sorry I can't find the early thread on the new deer hunting regs.

    I wanted to double check my interpretations. The limit is now 2, but it is 1 in any two seasons. If you want 3 for the season or 2 within a weapon season you need a bonus stamp, right?

    It is not that the limit is now 2 total and you could take them both in the same season, or get a bonus stamp to take 3 total and they could all be in the same season.
     

    94hokie

    Active Member
    Mar 29, 2015
    832
    Severna Park, MD
    I believe that is correct. And you cannot use the bonus stamp during early muzzleloader.

    Edit: Just checked the regs and it is correct
     
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    Moorvogi

    Firearm Advocate
    Dec 28, 2014
    855
    this took me a minute to read/understand. Please consider the following and help me make sure i understand.

    assuming you have zero bucks total harvested at this point
    archery: up to 1 buck (want 2? need a stamp and your done for the year)
    muzzle: up to 1 buck (want 2? need a stamp and your done for the year)
    rifle: up to 1 buck (want 2? need a stamp and your done for the year)

    assuming you have ONE buck total harvested in any season so far
    archery: up to 1 buck (need a stamp and your done for the year)
    muzzle: up to 1 buck (need a stamp and your done for the year)
    rifle: up to 1 buck (need a stamp and your done for the year)


    And finally, the 2 doe between bucks rule is removed. So you can go .. Doe doe doe.. buck buck. doe... yes?
     

    Moorvogi

    Firearm Advocate
    Dec 28, 2014
    855
    this took me a minute to read/understand. Please consider the following and help me make sure i understand.

    assuming you have zero bucks total harvested at this point
    archery: up to 1 buck (want 2? need a stamp and your done for the year)
    muzzle: up to 1 buck (want 2? need a stamp and your done for the year)
    rifle: up to 1 buck (want 2? need a stamp and your done for the year)

    assuming you have ONE buck total harvested in any season so far
    archery: up to 1 buck (need a stamp and your done for the year)
    muzzle: up to 1 buck (need a stamp and your done for the year)
    rifle: up to 1 buck (need a stamp and your done for the year)


    And finally, the 2 doe between bucks rule is removed. So you can go .. Doe doe doe.. buck buck. doe... yes?


    Wait.. nope.. it looks like 3 total if you have a stamp, 2 if not. and those 2 must be in separate seasons (assuming no stamp). If you have a stamp, you can get up to one more in ONE season.


    Blah.. sooo

    assuming you have zero bucks total harvested at this point
    archery: up to 1 buck (want 2? need a stamp and your done for the season)

    muzzle: up to 1 buck (want 2? need a stamp and your done for the season unless you already have 3 total then done for year)

    rifle: up to 1 buck (want 2? need a stamp and your done for the season unless you already have 3 total then done for year)



    assuming you have ONE buck total harvested in any season so far
    archery: up to 1 buck (need a stamp and your done for the season with 1 more in muzzle or rifle)

    muzzle: up to 1 buck (need a stamp and your done for the season with 1 more in rifle if not harvested 3 total already)

    rifle: up to 1 buck (need a stamp and your done for the season with 1 more in archery if not harvested 3 total already)
     

    Inigoes

    Head'n for the hills
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 21, 2008
    49,365
    SoMD / West PA
    The statewide combined total antlered white-tailed bag limit for
    Archery, Muzzleloader and Firearms Seasons is now two (2). Hunters
    in Region B will be eligible to take a third antlered deer with the
    purchase of a Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp.

    Page 5 of the Hunting and trapping guide.


    Hunters in Region B are no longer required to harvest two (2) antlerless
    white-tailed deer before using the Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp.

    Page 5 of the Hunting and trapping guide.


    Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp
    • A bonus antlered white-tailed deer may
    only be taken in Region B (see map,
    pg. 10).
    • A Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp must be
    purchased prior to pursuing a bonus
    antlered deer.
    • Hunting license holders that purchase
    a Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp may take
    one additional antlered white-tailed
    deer in Region B during one season
    of their choice (Archery, Muzzleloader
    or Firearms).
    • Those who may hunt without a license (pg.
    56) and those who possess an Apprentice
    Hunting License (pg. 54) do not need to
    purchase a Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp
    to take a bonus antlered white-tailed deer.
    • The use of a Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp
    to take one additional antlered whitetailed
    deer increases the total bag limit
    for the hunting license year (Archery,
    Muzzleloader and Firearms seasons) to 3.
    • A Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp that is not
    used during one season may be used in a
    subsequent season (Archery, Muzzleloader
    or Firearms) during that license year.
    • Only one bonus antlered white-tailed
    deer may be taken for each hunting license
    year.
    • The Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp may not
    be used during the Oct. 18–Oct. 20, 2018
    portion of the Muzzleloader Season.

    Page 12 of the Hunting and trapping guide.

    To take a bonus antlered white-tailed
    deer, all deer hunters except those who
    may hunt without a license or possess an
    Apprentice Hunting License, must purchase
    a Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp (see
    Deer and Turkey Tagging and Checking
    Requirements, pg. 32).

    Page 21 of the Hunting and trapping guide.


    You are not required to possess a Maryland
    hunting license if you are:
    • a resident of Maryland (or their spouse)
    who owns property and who hunts only
    on that property. This also applies to:
    »» The landowner’s children and grandchildren
    if they are under the age of 16.
    »» The landowner’s children and grandchildren,
    and the spouse of the children
    or grandchildren, regardless of
    age, if the child, grandchild, or their
    spouse lives on the property, or has
    worked on the property for at least
    30 days during the preceding 12
    months, or manages the property.
    (Each person must individually qualify
    under these criteria. To qualify for this
    exemption, a landowner does not need
    to live on the property but must be able
    to prove ownership.)
    • A person (or their spouse) who holds land
    under lease for agricultural purposes (or
    a sharecropper), and lives on this farmland,
    and hunts only on this farmland.
    This also applies to:
    »» The lessee’s children and grandchildren
    if they are under the age of 16.
    »» The lessee’s children and grandchildren,
    and their spouses, if the child,
    grandchild, or spouse of the child or
    grandchild, lives on the property, or
    has worked on the property for at
    least 30 days during the preceding 12
    months, or manages the property.
    • A nonresident (or their spouse) who owns
    a contiguous piece of farmland that is in
    both Virginia and Maryland and the person’s
    primary residence is on the Virginia
    portion of the property. Thus, they may
    hunt on the Maryland portion of the property
    without a Maryland hunting license.
    This also applies to the owner’s children
    and grandchildren if they are under the
    age of 16.

    Page 56 of the Hunting and trapping guide.

    Be aware that hunters not required to have
    a license:
    • must obtain a free DNRid number available
    through the COMPASS portal at
    compass.dnr.maryland.gov/ OR any Licensing
    and Registration Service Center (pg. 6) OR
    a Sport License agent.
    • must keep a record of their deer and turkey
    confirmation numbers by using the Big
    Game Harvest Record provided with their
    license, creating their own record or storing
    a record electronically on their mobile
    device. Proof of harvest must be furnished
    upon request. See Deer and Turkey Tagging
    and Checking (pgs. 32-33).
    • must have Maryland Migratory Game
    Bird Stamp to hunt migratory game birds.
    • must possess the Federal Migratory Bird
    Hunting and Conservation Stamp to hunt
    waterfowl and coots.
    • must obtain a Furbearer Permit to hunt,
    trap or chase any furbearer.
    • are not required to purchase Archery
    Deer Stamps, Muzzleloader Deer Stamps
    or Bonus Antlered Deer Stamps.

    Page 57 of the Hunting and trapping guide.

    So If you hunt on your own land, you do not have to purchase a Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp.
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,678
    Page 5 of the Hunting and trapping guide.




    Page 5 of the Hunting and trapping guide.




    Page 12 of the Hunting and trapping guide.



    Page 21 of the Hunting and trapping guide.




    Page 56 of the Hunting and trapping guide.



    Page 57 of the Hunting and trapping guide.

    So If you hunt on your own land, you do not have to purchase a Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp.

    Yeah. So a stamp for me then. Lol

    Also 94Hokie, good call that I can’t use the stamp in early ML! Relevant as I just tagged a 5-pt yesterday. I ambeat for the rest of early ML. I generally don’t hunt the antlerless only and I am too beat up today to get out. My wife voluntold me a bunch of stuff for Saturday after I told her I harvested a deer last night.

    Also good reminder that the bonus stamp is for region B only!

    Also I realized apparently the ladies are lucky with me. 4th season hunting this season and so far I’ve bagged 6 deer, 5 bucks between those seasons and just a yearling doe. Not really intentional.
     

    Melnic

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 27, 2012
    15,282
    HoCo
    So If you hunt on your own land, you do not have to purchase a Bonus Antlered Deer Stamp.

    So, If I have a DNRID (I fish and hunted previous years) that is all I need for hunting on my own property? I don't have to do something every year?
    This year I plan to ONLY hunt on my own property.
     

    Inigoes

    Head'n for the hills
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 21, 2008
    49,365
    SoMD / West PA
    So, If I have a DNRID (I fish and hunted previous years) that is all I need for hunting on my own property? I don't have to do something every year?
    This year I plan to ONLY hunt on my own property.

    Correct, if you only hunt on the property that you own.
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,678
    So, If I have a DNRID (I fish and hunted previous years) that is all I need for hunting on my own property? I don't have to do something every year?
    This year I plan to ONLY hunt on my own property.

    You need to download the big game hunting harvest card AFAIK and still record your harvests. You also must call/report your harvests to DNR.

    No, no hunting license needed. That said, I couldn’t tell you if you need muzzleloader or archery stamps or anything else like that. I think the answer is no, again so long as you are only hunting your property.
     

    Inigoes

    Head'n for the hills
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 21, 2008
    49,365
    SoMD / West PA
    You need to download the big game hunting harvest card AFAIK and still record your harvests. You also must call/report your harvests to DNR.

    No, no hunting license needed. That said, I couldn’t tell you if you need muzzleloader or archery stamps or anything else like that. I think the answer is no, again so long as you are only hunting your property.

    See my above post, it answers all of those.
     

    Archeryrob

    Undecided on a great many things
    Mar 7, 2013
    3,064
    Washington Co. - Fairplay
    Having the paper harvest record if you are using the DNR APP is such a stupid idea. :rolleyes:

    Its 2018 and a digital world and you can still get fined for not having paper records. Just a bunch of BS to me. Even the most honest man can get fined by the DNR for something.
     

    newmuzzleloader

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 14, 2009
    4,765
    joppa
    So, If I have a DNRID (I fish and hunted previous years) that is all I need for hunting on my own property? I don't have to do something every year?
    This year I plan to ONLY hunt on my own property.

    You just need the ID# to check the deer in. Not to hunt your property. Also children and grandchildren may hunt if they live or do work on the property, it's in the regs Inigoes posted upthread.

    Correct, if you only hunt on the property that you own.

    Property can be owned by parents or grandparents, my kids hunt without needing to purchase a license or the various stamps. IF we hunt outside of family property then we need a license/ stamps.

    It's so nice of the government to allow my family to hunt on our property. I feel like I should pay more taxes for this generous opportunity. NOT.
     

    Inigoes

    Head'n for the hills
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 21, 2008
    49,365
    SoMD / West PA
    Having the paper harvest record if you are using the DNR APP is such a stupid idea. :rolleyes:

    Its 2018 and a digital world and you can still get fined for not having paper records. Just a bunch of BS to me. Even the most honest man can get fined by the DNR for something.

    Deer and turkeys harvested must be field
    tagged before moving from the place
    of kill unless a confirmation number
    is obtained electronically at the place
    of kill. The carcass must also be field
    tagged when left unattended or given
    or left with another person. Deer and
    turkeys must be checked in within 24
    hours of recovery with the Department of
    Natural Resources to obtain a confirmation
    number. Hunters must keep a record
    of their confirmation numbers by using
    the Big Game Harvest Record provided
    with their license, creating their own
    record or storing a record electronically
    on their mobile device.
    Proof of harvest
    must be furnished upon request. See
    Deer and Turkey Tagging and Checking
    (pgs. 32-33).

    Page 8

    http://www.eregulations.com/maryland/hunting/

    If you can bring up the compass website, you should be good. If you have no signal, you're screwed.

    I keep a screen grab of my COMPASS harvest report on my device, just in case I have no signal.
     

    Derwood

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 2, 2011
    1,075
    DC area
    Is there any reason for this stuff to be so confusing? These regs need to be written on a sixth-grade reading level and should not require computational mental gymnastics to understand. The only reason I understand this new rule is because I read and re-read and sat and thought about it for a good long while sitting in a tree stand.

    Normally I'm not a big fan of hiring a consultant to do some basic work that should be done in-house, but it seems to me DNR should go ahead and spend a few thousand dollars to get a firm that specializes in presenting this kind of information to do a page 1 rewrite of the regs. Not changing the regs themselves, just making them understandable by presenting them in a coherent and clear way.

    How about some charts? Decision trees? Fewer side notes and footnotes? Simple stuff that we all do for our own business and/or customers to make things make sense. Just imagine presenting a sales catalog to a customer that resembles the mush of the DNR regs. You could hire a small project team at any the multiple Class A consulting firms that call Maryland home and get this fixed in one week. I bet the firm would even do it pro bono in exchange for getting their logo somewhere on the page. /rant over
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,678
    You just need the ID# to check the deer in. Not to hunt your property. Also children and grandchildren may hunt if they live or do work on the property, it's in the regs Inigoes posted upthread.



    Property can be owned by parents or grandparents, my kids hunt without needing to purchase a license or the various stamps. IF we hunt outside of family property then we need a license/ stamps.

    It's so nice of the government to allow my family to hunt on our property. I feel like I should pay more taxes for this generous opportunity. NOT.

    The point is, the North American hunting model is that the animals belong to everyone, not to the property owner of the property the animal happens to be standing on or flying over at the time you shoot it.
     

    planktonadbc

    Active Member
    Jun 20, 2013
    134
    Harpers Ferry
    These rules are a bit crazy. Toward the bottom it says, "Although not recommended by Baltimore City Department of Public Works, the use of patented portable tree stands is permitted."
    And then to say,
    "Portable tree stands must be removed at the end of each day." Does BCDPW expect you to bring 2x4s, ladder, boards, hammer and nails and make a permanent tree stand? "
    I know this is a serious discussion here so to lighten up the mood. See how many issues there are now. Here some future hunting MD regs for next year:
    "No Brown or Piebald Deer maybe taken harvested"; "Only approved ammunition bullet dimensions over of .951 rifle/muzzleloader and .551 bore shotguns can be used" ; "Arrows with sharp points cannot be used" ; "Only Odd-toed Ungulate Deer are legal"; "Region B, No hunting except for deer taken by knifes and automobiles" and "Deer taken by automobiles now count toward the bag limit "
     

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    Inigoes

    Head'n for the hills
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 21, 2008
    49,365
    SoMD / West PA
    These rules are a bit crazy. Toward the bottom it says, "Although not recommended by Baltimore City Department of Public Works, the use of patented portable tree stands is permitted."
    And then to say,
    "Portable tree stands must be removed at the end of each day." Does BCDPW expect you to bring 2x4s, ladder, boards, hammer and nails and make a permanent tree stand? "

    You may think it sounds stupid. Yes, people do put up stands on public land and want to leave them their for their next hunt.
     

    planktonadbc

    Active Member
    Jun 20, 2013
    134
    Harpers Ferry
    You may think it sounds stupid. Yes, people do put up stands on public land and want to leave them their for their next hunt.

    I'm sorry I'm from the "Leave No Trace" camp, especially on public land. I would think this would be first come first served after all that work building a tree stand. It seems odd to me...?
     
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    Inigoes

    Head'n for the hills
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 21, 2008
    49,365
    SoMD / West PA
    I'm sorry I'm from the "Leave No Trace" camp, especially on public land. I would think this would be first come first served after all that work building a tree stand. It seems odd to me...?

    It happens.

    People haul in stands and do not want to truck them out at night, when they plan to hunt the next day. They think they are saving themselves some work, not realizing they could be impacting others.

    The offenders are then faced with the choice of a lost stand, or a littering fine.

    Md. Criminal Code Ann. §10-110

    Misdemeanor.

    For amounts of litter not exceeding 100 pounds or 27 cubic feet and not for commercial gain: fine up to $1,500, imprisonment up to 30 days, or both. For amounts exceeding 100 pounds or 27 cubic feet, but not exceeding 500 pounds or 216 cubic feet, and not for commercial gain: fine up to $12,500, imprisonment up to one year, or both. For amounts exceeding 500 pounds or 216 cubic feet or in any amount for commercial gain: fine up to $30,000, imprisonment up to five years, or both. The court may also require cleanup, repair or payment of damages, community service, and suspension of driver's license.
     

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