VCDL MEETS TONIGHT! Open To The Public

Rack&Roll · Jul 19, 2018

The Virginia Citizens Defense League is staging their regularly monthly meeting tonight in Annandale VA.

"Fellowship Time" begins at 7pm, and the meeting begins at 8pm and goes to 10pm. This meeting, as always, is open to the public.

This will be the first official rank & file gathering since VCDL Founder and leader Phil Van Cleave was seen to be participating in an anti-gun Showtime Comedy production that held him up to intense ridicule.

I believe Mr. Van Cleave will take the opportunity tonight to either explain more about how he was fooled and/or apologize for allowing himself to be so badly pranked.

I will be attending this VCDL meeting and invite anyone else who would like to join to attend also. I will be arriving well before 7pm as I suspect this meeting may go over capacity for the room and some will be turned away.

This is a firearm carry event, as usual, either concealed (with permit) for Open Carry for any citizen, whether from VA or not.

The address for tonight's meeting is:

Mason Government Center
Large Conference Room
6507 Columbia Pike
Annandale VA 22003

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1. Annandale membership meeting
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VCDL will have a membership meeting in Annandale on Thursday, July 19.

Fellowship begins at 7:30 p.m., with the meeting called to order at 8 p.m. and adjourning at 9:30 p.m.

As with all membership meetings, this meeting is open to the public, so please bring along friends and family!

If you need any VCDL "stuff", send an email to Bruce Jackson at: Bruce@VCDL.org and he'll try to bring it to the meeting if he gets the notice in time.

For directions, click here:

http://www.vcdl.org/meetings

Carry is legal in this local government building.

Rack&Roll · Jul 19, 2018

3pm bumpski, with just me and "4 guests"....

Rack&Roll · Jul 19, 2018

4pm bumpski

Engine4 · Jul 19, 2018

Tell Phil he has our (or at least my), support.

Glaron · Jul 19, 2018

I need to get into VCDL, but too far for me.

daNattyFatty · Jul 19, 2018

Engine4 said:
Tell Phil he has our (or at least my), support.

I know nothing of this incident, other than this thread.

My question is, in this day and age, knowing the prevailing media culture, how could he let himself be put in such a position?

If he was duped, what’s wrong with handling it the way Tom Selleck did when Rosie O’Donnell pulled that stunt?

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Rack&Roll · Jul 19, 2018

Well, the big question now has an answer—whether Phil Van Cleave would lead this meeting or have his co-leaders chair the meeting.

Phil is here. No media, surprisingly.

Stoveman · Jul 19, 2018

How many in attendance?

Rack&Roll · Jul 19, 2018

About 69-70

Stoveman · Jul 19, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
About 69-70

How many with pitchforks?

EL1227 · Jul 19, 2018

Stoveman said:
How many with pitchforks?

Or burning 'Borat' in effigy.

Phil got 'punked' ...

Sacha Baron Cohen Was Busted Trying To Buy a Gun In Disguise

Rab1515 · Jul 19, 2018

EL1227 said:
Or burning 'Borat' in effigy. Phil got 'punked' ...

Sacha Baron Cohen Was Busted Trying To Buy a Gun In Disguise

To bad he didnt falsely a 4473 in the process...

Rack&Roll · Jul 19, 2018

The meeting went A little over 90 minutes. About 75 minutes were used by Phil Van Cleave to describe how complex the prank was, and the many different ways they got him to set aside his suspicions.

He also reiterated that he stayed with the production once he was”suspicious”, but only to investigate who was behind this scenario.

He said the plush “gunanimals” segment was where he thought he had the best chance of discovering who was behind the production so he could ring the alarm.

A significant number of VCDL members urged him to be patient—that this will blow over.

A few insisted there was a cascade of clues that should have resulted in Van Cleave pulling the rip cord, but these ideas were brushed aside as unrealistic by Phil considering how many “legit” production elements were involved, including, phone numbers and website and the largest crew he has ever personally seen.

Phil Van Cleave described that one of the first things he did was surrender his cell phone.

He does not say that he goofed, only that Sacha Baron Cohen & Crew were on their game so completely.

Rack&Roll · Jul 19, 2018

Don’t shoot me...I’m just the piano player.

I did speak privately with Phil and his top Lieutenant, but I won’t divulge the contents of that conversation here.

Stoveman · Jul 19, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
The meeting went A little over 90 minutes. About 75 minutes were used by Phil Van Cleave to describe how complex the prank was, and the many different ways they got him to set aside his suspicions.

He also reiterated that he stayed with the production once he was”suspicious”, but only to investigate who was behind this scenario.

He said the plush “gunanimals” segment was where he thought he had the best chance of discovering who was behind the production so he could ring the alarm.

A significant number of VCDL members urged him to be patient—that this will blow over.

A few insisted there was a cascade of clues that should have resulted in Van Cleave pulling the rip cord, but these ideas were brushed aside as unrealistic by Phil considering how many “legit” production elements were involved, including, phone numbers and website and the largest crew he has ever personally seen.

Phil Van Cleave described that one of the first things he did was surrender his cell phone.

He does not say that he goofed, only that Sacha Baron Cohen & Crew were on their game so completely.

AssMan · Jul 19, 2018

Phil seems like a good guy and is obviously a great advocate for the cause, but if he can't handle the (dishonest) media (he clearly can't) he needs to find someone that can - or (better yet) simply deny these interview requests. As a dues paying member that lives in VA, I don't give a crap if he sits down with Katie Couric or anyone else (legit or otherwise). I just don't care and doing so doesn't add any value from my perspective. He seems to be a good executive/administrator for the organization, but he needs a media savvy secretary to run interference. I'll leave it at that.

Mr. Ed · Jul 19, 2018

Holy shit. I just saw the show on SHO and cannot freaking believe that all those folks fell for SBC's line of ********. How stupid are these people?

Kinderguardians? Who the eff thinks it's a good idea for kids to be armed in elementary schools? The folks who appeared in that catastrophe need to be taken out back and have some sense beaten into them. There is no excuse for that kind of stupid. :mad54:

eruby · Jul 20, 2018

Stoveman said:

^^ This

Rack&Roll said:
Don’t shoot me...I’m just the piano player.

I did speak privately with Phil and his top Lieutenant, but I won’t divulge the contents of that conversation here.

I understand you not wanting to divulge in this open forum, but based on what I am reading in this thread, it seems like he will stay on, and hopes in time everyone will just forget about the incident.

I am mostly ignorant on all this, except what I have seen and read, but Capt. Queeg comes to mind.

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