HPRB July 15, 2019 Meeting Thread

Applehd · Jul 15, 2019

This thread will be used for discussion of the meeting of the HPRB on July 15, 2019.

DPSCS website link below. This link will be updated to reflect a change of meeting status or possible change of venue. Future meeting dates, time, and the location of the meeting is posted on the DPSCS HPRB website.

http://www.dpscs.state.md.us/agencies/hprb.shtml

As of July 8th, 2019 the Handgun Permit Review Board (HPRB) meets at The Fifth Regiment Armory, 219 29th Division Street, Baltimore, MD 21201. Meetings are scheduled to begin at 6:00 pm.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/J...d905d61852f161!8m2!3d39.3033845!4d-76.6215785

bblicke1 · Jul 15, 2019

Hope this meeting inspires more promise than the last meeting

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Deep Lurker · Jul 15, 2019

It appears that the re-constituted Board, as evidenced by Chairman Smalkin’s conduct of its first Board hearing last week, is moving toward adoption of Star Chamber methods, Maryland flavor.

While we can always rely on Democrats to frustrate public governmental accountability and transparency, now Republican HPRB appointees are also reflexively choosing to march in the Democrats’ un-American secrecy parade.

Renewed below are links to the MD Open Meetings Act (OMA) websites.

It appears that OMA compliance by this new Board will increasingly become an issue, to name just one of many troubling developments.

The specific issue here is the novel procedure (previously unannounced and unpublished) whereby members of this new Board now take secret votes in open public session to decide the permit appeals of citizen applicants.

If process votes are required to be “recorded” for future publication in the hearing minutes by the MD OMA, then why can’t the “individual” member votes be audibly “heard” during the “hearing” itself?

Smalkin presumably had adequate time to review the directives of the OMA.

It also seems that prior to the first hearing Chairman Smalkin had adequate time to review MD W&C Permit law.

Apparently he did neither.

Smalkin evidently chose instead to finesse both of these areas of the MD law informing the conduct of this 5-member citizen-review board: he forgot to be a citizen himself, choosing instead to become a Star Chamber unto himself.

Smalkin thus far has relied on his own “I’m a judge and this is my courtroom” attitude of legal infallibility, turning the Board’s administrator into his personal court clerk to announce the outcome of hearing decisions, and virtually ignoring his fellow citizen board members, which amounted to both ignorance of the law and incompetence at managing this process.

While the substitution of pomposity for knowledge is at times comic, this is not a laughing matter Judge: people’s lives are at stake.

Deep Lurker · Jul 15, 2019

This is a link to the Maryland Open Meetings Act “Quick Guide”:

http://www.marylandattorneygeneral.g...gs/OMA_FAQ.pdf

Deep Lurker · Jul 15, 2019

MD .gov page to link to the full MD Open Meetings Act (OMA) Manual:

http://www.marylandattorneygeneral.g...s/default.aspx

PDF of the complete OMA Manual:

http://www.marylandattorneygeneral.g...anualPrint.pdf

Stoveman · Jul 15, 2019

Everybody's favorite reporter, Pam Wood, is here tonight with a photog.

At least one red shirt.

Deep Lurker · Jul 15, 2019

Tonight’s hearing begins in a few minutes, at 6 PM.

Patriot Picket is planning to live-stream the hearing:

https://m.facebook.com/ThePatriotPicket/

If you have FB account you can watch it live; if not, I think you can go to the PP FB page at the link above and watch the hearing later, after the livestream has concluded, and it becomes an archived video near the top of the page.

Stoveman · Jul 15, 2019

Judge Smails taking the time pre meeting to hawk his white paper again.

Deep Lurker · Jul 15, 2019

Just one example from the OMA Manual which illustrates the specificity of the recording of individual votes; in this case, votes to close the meeting to the public.

Below, first pic, full page of the manual.

Second pic, go to the middle of the paragraph; “Second, the presiding officer must conduct a recorded vote ...”

Stoveman · Jul 15, 2019

In case any of you need some reading material for a crapper visit.

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EdHershon · Jul 15, 2019

Stoveman said:
Judge Smails taking the time pre meeting to hawk his white paper again.

It’s a new White Paper that is not entirely accurate.

Not_an_outlaw · Jul 15, 2019

Are two of the board members different, or am I having a senior moment?

Stoveman · Jul 15, 2019

Not_an_outlaw said:
Are two of the board members different, or am I having a senior moment?

The guy on the right was not there last week. He's the new vice chairman.

Not_an_outlaw · Jul 15, 2019

Now we're getting a lecture on stet and how it is appropriate, even though it's not in the statute as as available option.

EdHershon · Jul 15, 2019

Stoveman said:
The guy on the right was not there last week. He's the new vice chairman.

Jim Ballard. Former MSP Major.

Not_an_outlaw · Jul 15, 2019

Board member discussing Heller that has come out since the cases cited in the white paper. Doesn't think precidents listed are dispositive.

Not_an_outlaw · Jul 15, 2019

Judge disagrees. Says 4th circuit discussed precidents and ......... (Somebody help me here.)

Law is current since SCOTUS did not grant cert, so we're screwed.

Not_an_outlaw · Jul 15, 2019

First is no show. Get one reset. Second time dismissed.

Not_an_outlaw · Jul 15, 2019

Second case up. One board member recuses himself. 4th board member was sitting at the kiddie table with Stevi. Now up front.

EdHershon · Jul 15, 2019

Smalkin thought Virginia had reciprocity with Maryland

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