TulAmmo release "RANGE SAFE" steel free projectile ammo

OLM-Medic · Jan 28, 2020

Steel casing, but steel free projectile.

Finally you might be able to shoot Wolf indoors. I'm seeing this ammo for $199/1000 on sgammo.com right now.

TulAmmo is making gun owners happy this month.

erwos · Jan 28, 2020

This stuff isn't new, I've been shooting it since March 2019. Not sure why Tulammo insists on calling it new. Good stuff, but not as hot as M193.

Melnic · Jan 28, 2020

do you know what calibers they are making it in?

WildWeasel · Jan 28, 2020

I may just be going off of prior prejudices but isn't steel bad for chambers and dirty as california?

erwos · Jan 28, 2020

Melnic said:
do you know what calibers they are making it in?

.223 and 7.62x39, as per their catalog.

WildWeasel said:
I may just be going off of prior prejudices but isn't steel bad for chambers and dirty as california?

It's dirty, but it's not the only dirty ammo out there. Steel casing is not particularly rough on the chamber. Throat and gas port erosion are going to trash the barrel far faster than the steel casing will.

sig guy · Jan 28, 2020

Ive never seen that anywhere,be fun for 7.69x39

Park ranger · Jan 28, 2020

Steel is hard on extractors. So what, they are cheap. It's just most steel dont shoot worth a sh!t

bkuether · Jan 29, 2020

Park ranger said:
Steel is hard on extractors. So what, they are cheap. It's just most steel dont shoot worth a sh!t

During the "ammo scares", sometimes the steel cased stuff was all you could find and shoot. And you felt "lucky" actually getting some....

(If you weren't shooting back in 2014, you have NO IDEA how crazy it was to find AR food and especially .22... Go look at the ammo spotting threads for some idea....)

PERSONALLY, I shot a crap ton of Tulammo in my ARs, and have had exactly ZERO issue with it. I have also shot a lot of Wolf, and again no issues.

However, if you read reviews of both, TYPICALLY the Tulammo gets rated higher as being more reliable.

With regards to extractors, all of my ARs still function properly, but as was stated, if you were to have issues, it is $15 dollar part, and even if it wears out early, shooting steel cased will more than offset the the cost over time.

Regarding the non-steel core in Tulammo and being range safe, it depends on the "the range". Some use a magnet, and DON'T CARE if it's grabbing the case rather than the tip. Check before you go.

erwos · Jan 29, 2020

The extractor thing is overstated, unless you have a trashy soft extractor to start with. If people were busting extractors left and right due to steel case, we could have heard about it by now.

It's impossible to say whether Tulammo or Wolf or whatever is "more reliable", because all they do is import from other companies, and they DO change who they buy from on a lot by lot basis. Tula is basically the bottom of the barrel when it comes to .223. Barnaul is much better stuff. But you have to know who they've bought from to make that distinction.

ken792 · Jan 29, 2020

DAG Ammo has it for good prices at the Nation's show. The 7.62x39 is $220 OTD for a case. I got one last year and it works fine. I've shot it at my indoor range and also outdoors ringing steel at 200 and 300yd.

danb · Jan 29, 2020

Melnic said:
do you know what calibers they are making it in?

available calibers: Dirty; Scary; destructive; corrosive; wtf? (and my favorite) Spray and Pray (20 MoA guarantee).

moose&squirrel · Jan 29, 2020

I shoot Wolf Gold 55 grain in my AR, typically 26 to 28 cents a round, on line. Non-ferrous bullets, brass casings, pretty clean, reliable, and accurate enough at 100-200 yards for a hobby shooter like me. Here's a one MOA test:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR22DqGzPvM

Red1917 · Jan 29, 2020

The Tula range friendly I have is decent stuff, over 500 rounds and no issues and plenty good enough for action shooting. I think I paid 23 cents/round delivered from Targetsportsusa

TapRackBang · Jan 29, 2020

Will ranges accept it? Ranges I've been to won't let you use ammo if any part of it sticks to a magnet. Will Freestate accept it?

ken792 · Jan 29, 2020

TapRackBang said:
Will ranges accept it? Ranges I've been to won't let you use ammo if any part of it sticks to a magnet. Will Freestate accept it?

NRA and Peacemaker (for rifle steel targets) have. The RO usually comes over and reads the box when they see me pulling out an AK and loading up with steel case.

The ones that want to hoard your brass to resell probably won't.

bkuether · Jan 29, 2020

TapRackBang said:
Will ranges accept it? Ranges I've been to won't let you use ammo if any part of it sticks to a magnet. Will Freestate accept it?

It has been a while since I shot at Freestate, but they had a huge magnet, and if it attracted your ammo, you couldn't shoot it there.

Things may have changed. Probably best to call them.

psucobra96 · Jan 29, 2020

Any chance they sell this in 5.45x39? Most of what I have is old surplus 7n6 in the tuna cans.

erwos · Jan 29, 2020

psucobra96 said:
Any chance they sell this in 5.45x39? Most of what I have is old surplus 7n6 in the tuna cans.

https://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf...r-jacket-60-grain-non-magnetic-fmj-mil-spec-a

woodline · Jan 29, 2020

erwos said:
https://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf...r-jacket-60-grain-non-magnetic-fmj-mil-spec-a

I made a thread about this stuff awhile back, but I don't think it attracted a lot of interest. HOPEFULLY with a number of manufacturers standing up domestic production of 5.45 rifles that will change. Talking to Sam several months before all those new 5.45 guns were announced it sounded like it was a pretty big fail and he wasn't planning on ordering more of it.

Who knows, maybe we will even get some decent American made HD/hunting options in 5.45 in the next few years now that Hornady is selling brass.

OLM-Medic · Jan 30, 2020

TapRackBang said:
Will ranges accept it? Ranges I've been to won't let you use ammo if any part of it sticks to a magnet. Will Freestate accept it?

I have had one person there tell me they only care if the bullet is magnetic and this stuff would be fine, and another person say that if anything on the cartridge is magnetic you can't shoot it. That was in the same week.

So honestly, who knows?

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