Scope for my AR

arbud · Jan 2, 2019

Going to put a fixed power 4 or 6 on my AR flat top. What type or height rings or "sled" will I need to make sure I don't have the front site in the picture. I do not want to go any higher then I need to. It can be a combo. I am not even at all interested in Trij or any of that real expensive stuff.
Just in case I have to defend my house some day with a shtf scenario with 60 year old eyes. Thanks guys

k9guy · Jan 2, 2019

Can’t go wrong with the Burris AR-556. It was designed specifically for the AR-15 and is full time 5x. It has a range finding retinal that is black but you can illuminate it red or green, whichever you like.

https://www.burrisoptics.com/sights/ar-sights

tall.guy88 · Jan 2, 2019

arbud said:
Going to put a fixed power 4 or 6 on my AR flat top. What type or height rings or "sled" will I need to make sure I don't have the front site in the picture. I do not want to go any higher then I need to. It can be a combo. I am not even at all interested in Trij or any of that real expensive stuff.
Just in case I have to defend my house some day with a shtf scenario with 60 year old eyes. Thanks guys

I dont know. But I went up to bass pro in Anne Arundel County and the gun shop guys were super helpful with scope information in the past. If your over that way try them.

DavidA · Jan 2, 2019

Three suggestion pure home defense go with a simple red dot. Hi Lux red dot. Or max go to a Burris 332 for home defenses you can still shoot two eyes open as magnification is not that far off. Put it on a 1/2” riser and you can co witness with hard sights if you have a post. If you are looking to use it for range plinking and such and you would like longer target acquisition, I would go with a PREPER cantilevered mount and a 1*8 x24 Vortex Strike eagle. I have all three. Each serves it purpose. Just depends what you want.

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4guyz1stool · Jan 2, 2019

the front sight will be obscured with a magnified sight. It should not be an issue. Co-witness or lower 1/3 will both work.

Mr.Blue · Jan 2, 2019

arbud said:
Going to put a fixed power 4 or 6 on my AR flat top. What type or height rings or "sled" will I need to make sure I don't have the front site in the picture. I do not want to go any higher then I need to. It can be a combo. I am not even at all interested in Trij or any of that real expensive stuff.
Just in case I have to defend my house some day with a shtf scenario with 60 year old eyes. Thanks guys

You mentioned “60 year old eyes”. Do you have astigmatism? If you do, red dots aren’t great. My AimPoint Comp M3 looks like a starburst/sun. I find EoTechs a little clearer. You can cowitness the bottom 1/3 like I do with my Aimpoint. See the below of my DD M4V1 with the AimPoint in a LaRue mount, 1/3 cowitness. It should give you an idea of the height.

You get a lot for your money with Vortex scopes. Check them out.

Good luck.

erwos · Jan 2, 2019

Steiner M332 is not a bad choice for the money.

engineerbrian · Jan 2, 2019

k9guy said:
Can’t go wrong with the Burris AR-556. It was designed specifically for the AR-15 and is full time 5x. It has a range finding retinal that is black but you can illuminate it red or green, whichever you like.

https://www.burrisoptics.com/sights/ar-sights

I came here to post this. Amazon has great prices on them

DavidA · Jan 2, 2019

Sorry I meant will cowitness with the red dot not 332

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jcutonilli · Jan 2, 2019

The guys at inrange looked at a bunch of different optics for their What Would Stoner Do Project (Updated AR build). They liked a red dot with a magnifier the best. They also like a 1-4 vari-power scope. They also tested fixed power scopes but did not like them due to the various distances they wanted to optimize.

Pinecone · Jan 3, 2019

You have to go very high to not see the front sight in the scope.

Your choices are to remove the front sight, or ignore it. I don't even notice the front sight when shooting. If I look for it, I can see it.

sasd18 · Jan 3, 2019

Vortex PST 1-4. Great bang for buck.

Then get their lightweight cantilever mount. I haven’t had any issues with either

photoracer · Jan 3, 2019

USAMU recommends 1-4 or 1-6 scopes these days instead of Eotechs and magnifiers for DMR builds because the magnifier magnifys the dot also sometimes making it too big for accuracy. Also why I did not like FFP scopes when I was shooting 3-gun. I used the Burris MTAC 1-4x and latter added the 1.5-6x version. Now I have a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x on one of my rifles and that works for me also. All that being said in the case of HD often times a good red dot is all you need as long as you practice with it.

alucard0822 · Jan 3, 2019

Variable 1-4/6/8 scopes have a lot of advantages at close range over fixed power, Have a couple Vortex PST/PST2s and strike eagles, and they are great for the money. The older 1-6 strike eagle can be found for under $250, and is about the least expensive scope that I can comfortably shoot at 1X with both eyes open at close range like a red-dot. Most anything cheaper has enough distortion to make it difficult, better scopes usually have a flatter/clearer image. The Nikon BF1000 1-4 probably has the flattest / true unmagnified image till you get around $700 Trijicon and Vortex models, but I'm not a fan of the reticle. Illuminated reticles are pointless IMO until you get into daylight bright models around $700, but even then the usual CR2032 batteries only last a few hours before going dead. The main issue with red dots is that most have to be turned on, or have a short battery life, Aimpoint PRO, and the Holosun / PA / Sig Romeo4 red dots can be left on for years, and will be ready as soon as you need them, as much as I love EoTechs, I only run them on range / comp rifles and not defensive ones as they take time to turn on, adjust brightness, and batteries don't last long. Being truly unmagnified, red dots are the easiest to shoot with both eyes open, and even if they don't work, sighting through the tube will get you on target at close range. There is a trick to use a magnified scope, or even a red-dot with the front cap closed at close range, basically keeping both eyes open, your brain will help line up the reticle it sees with one eye with the target it sees with the other, takes some practice, but it works, and is important to consider with optics that can fog or fail.

onedash · Jan 3, 2019

I have a Leupold vx-5hd-1-5x24mm scope in a Badger Ordnance 30 MM RECON UNIMOUNT - (1.54") on my DPMS GII Recon. I don't have a front sight post but at one power with the BUIS popped up it bothered me so I removed it. I love it. Little pricey though.

Merlin593 · Jan 5, 2019

Check out Primary Arms for both fixed mag (3 and 5X) scopes or variable mag 1-6X. Great reticle systems. They have mounting options for both and you can call them for recommendations on the appropriate height for your back up sights.

https://www.primaryarms.com/pa-1-6x24mm-sfp-gen-iii-lpvo-rifle-scope-with-sfp-acss-556-reticle-black

https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-gen-ii-3x-compact-prism-scope-acss-cqb-m2-5-56-nato-reticle-black

Ammo Jon · Jan 5, 2019

Get one of these you don’t have to worry about aiming as much

https://www.surefire.com/mag5-100.html

Biggfoot44 · Jan 5, 2019

* Warning - Old School, Old Fart *

Fixed 2.5 - 3X .

Wide enough field of to not be limiting target aquisition , as long as the gun vaguely fits you . Enough magnification to be useful .

Over the years wanted to like the idea of low power variables . But by the time that you the optical degradation at either end of the range ( say 0-1x and 3-4x ) you are right back in same territory as a fixed 2.5x .

Rockzilla · Jan 5, 2019

Biggfoot44 said:
* Warning - Old School, Old Fart *

Fixed 2.5 - 3X .

Wide enough field of to not be limiting target aquisition , as long as the gun vaguely fits you . Enough magnification to be useful .

Over the years wanted to like the idea of low power variables . But by the time that you the optical degradation at either end of the range ( say 0-1x and 3-4x ) you are right back in same territory as a fixed 2.5x .

Old school sometimes is best not all the time...but most
acquire quickly main goal, wide field of view as you said
slap a high power scope on there and see want happens
spend to much time "trying" to find /see the target, then
it's too late... variable 1-6 or fixed say 2.5 or 4x. just a thought

and ole school here... the least amount of "crap" hanging
on it, that's one less thing to worry about, JMO
-Rock

1ceman · Feb 2, 2019

Merlin593 said:
Check out Primary Arms for both fixed mag (3 and 5X) scopes or variable mag 1-6X. Great reticle systems. They have mounting options for both and you can call them for recommendations on the appropriate height for your back up sights.

https://www.primaryarms.com/pa-1-6x24mm-sfp-gen-iii-lpvo-rifle-scope-with-sfp-acss-556-reticle-black

https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-gen-ii-3x-compact-prism-scope-acss-cqb-m2-5-56-nato-reticle-black

I have this on 1 of my favorite AR builds. I LOVE the reticle. They do offer the ACSS reticle without magnification as well.

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