Any ideas on a decent, yet affordable .300 blk suppressed pistol for HD?

Baccusboy · Jan 22, 2018

Thinking I would like an affordable, suppressed .300blk pistol with brace for a home defense situation, one day, once I move back to Iowa.

Thoughts on any pre-built guns, or what to put together? Including suppressor suggestions?

Or maybe a subsonic silenced 9mm would be a far more affordable choice.... ideas?

Trumpet · Jan 22, 2018

Baccusboy said:
Thinking I would like an affordable, suppressed .300blk pistol with brace for a home defense situation, one day, once I move back to Iowa.

Thoughts on any pre-built guns, or what to put together? Including suppressor suggestions?

Or maybe a subsonic silenced 9mm would be a far more affordable choice.... ideas?

Why wait until you're in Iowa? AR pistols are OK. Unless you already have a suppressor, I don't see how the suppressed 9mm will be more affordable (unless you're talking in terms of ammo). I would just go with a 10.5" or 11" 5.56 and be done with it.

sleepingdino · Jan 22, 2018

Just buy a 300 BLK upper and be done! Uppers are so cheap now. Do it now.

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DevinRPD · Jan 22, 2018

maybe consider using the shorter "K" type of suppressors for a home defense 300 blackout

it doesnt need to be as quiet as possible just enough to take the bite off

i build my own 300blk and id definitely go that route again if you trust your armorer skills

danb · Jan 22, 2018

Just build. Buying pre-assembled wont save you a ton of money and at least 2 of the parts you wont like and want to change anyway.

Also, remember that .300 blk AR pistols are a sure sign of conspicuous consumption, so make sure to get a camo anodized aluminum billet receiver and nickel boron bolt. :sarcasm:

Baccusboy · Jan 22, 2018

Completely new to the AR scene... What uppers/lowers are good, for a good value?

danb · Jan 22, 2018

You have to decide your budget first. You can get a decent AR with free float handguard under $700 now, and add a suppressor (which may run you another $900 including tax stamp). Or you can go all the way and get Daniel Defense $3200 integrally suppressed hotness. What are you actually using it for? You will be in 'murica so you will have way more options.

Baccusboy · Jan 22, 2018

As I have been watching videos, I see people complain about getting gassed in the face. Is this common, or avoidable?

danb · Jan 22, 2018

An adjustable gas block reduces this problem. If you are running suppressed you want an adjustable gas block. If you get an AR without one, these are pretty inexpensive and easy to install ($75 or so from Wilson Combat for example), but you will want to make sure the handguard/fore-end has a large enough diameter.

ETA: this is only true of rifle caliber ARs. 9mm ARs are blowback operated, so this does not work, there is no gas system. May need a heavier bolt or buffer, or something else. "Piston" type guns are also a different animal.

DevinRPD · Jan 22, 2018

Baccusboy said:
Completely new to the AR scene... What uppers/lowers are good, for a good value?

Aero Precision, imo, is one of the best for lower/upper receivers if you are on a budget.

If i was gonna go a step above that id probably go with a Spike's Tactical

although, my first build was with a $50 stripped Anderson lower. and it has worked flawlessly so its hard to go wrong these days

Building a rifle/pistol is always my first choice because you can choose exactly what you want and not waste money on stuff you wont use

Major03 · Jan 22, 2018

+1 for building. In the end, you'll save money...mostly because you won't be spending money replacing the things you inevitably will want to replace on an out of the box buy.

In terms of what to buy, regardless of barrel length, get a pistol length gas system. I would also recommend an adjustable low profile gas block as well.

I went with a Seekins Precision 10.5" match barrel and couldn't be happier. A friend built one with a Odin Works match barrel...also shoots very well.

Major03 · Jan 22, 2018

I'm also of the belief that as long as they are in spec, the upper and lower receiver are not as important as spending money on a barrel and a decent trigger. I do think it's worth taking the time to true the upper receiver for the barrel extension.

YMMV

outrider58 · Jan 22, 2018

My 2¢ if you will end up somewhere in the country, I'd go 300 Blk. In an urban or suburban setting, I'd go with a 9mm.

On a whole, the 9mm would be cheaper to build/buy and suppress.

teratos · Jan 22, 2018

Baccusboy said:
As I have been watching videos, I see people complain about getting gassed in the face. Is this common, or avoidable?

Why .300 BLK? Subs are about the same as .45 ACP. May want to at least consider a suppressed CMMG Guard .45 pistol. The delayed blowback system should significantly reduce the gas in the face.
https://www.cmmginc.com/product/upper-group-mkg-pdw-45-acp-sbn/

This also comes in 9mm. You can get the 8" barrel/bolt for $375. You can do the rest of the gun pretty cheaply since it uses a standard AR upper, buffer spring and buffer.

pbharvey · Jan 22, 2018

FWIW I think shouldering a braced AR is a very cramped, unnatural shooting position. If you haven't shot one, try it and see what you think first.

teratos · Jan 22, 2018

pbharvey said:
FWIW I think shouldering a braced AR is a very cramped, unnatural shooting position. If you haven't shot one, try it and see what you think first.

Check out the Shockwave. Extends nicely.

pbharvey · Jan 22, 2018

teratos said:
Check out the Shockwave. Extends nicely.

Thanks, my Sig brace is uncomfortable. A quick google of the shockwave ran me down a rabbit hole of a "is-so, is-not" legal to shoulder argument.

https://m.facebook.com/ShockwaveTec...828.1440312666272452/1683507475286302/?type=3

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/05/15/psa-critical-analysis-shouldering-brace/

Regardless of the above it sure seems like a better option than the Sig brace.

teratos · Jan 22, 2018

pbharvey said:
Thanks, my Sig brace is uncomfortable. A quick google of the shockwave ran me down a rabbit hole of a "is-so, is-not" legal to shoulder argument.

https://m.facebook.com/ShockwaveTec...828.1440312666272452/1683507475286302/?type=3

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/05/15/psa-critical-analysis-shouldering-brace/

Regardless of the above it sure seems like a better option than the Sig brace.

ATF approved as a pistol brace. ATF says you can sometimes shoulder pistol braces....

pbharvey · Jan 22, 2018

I only shoulder mine if I want to shoot something so it’s not like I shoulder it all the time.

teratos · Jan 22, 2018

pbharvey said:
I only shoulder mine if I want to shoot something so it’s not like I shoulder it all the time.

Exactly.

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